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!@#$%! · 05.26.2010, 01:32 PM

glice-- im planning on starting with kant to get to hegel-- i've read people like the schlegel bros. and schelling, and some accounts of fichte which have more or less prepared me for the hardcore german idealism, but my readings of kant are limited... i know it might be horrible prose but i'll give it a shot regardless.

i'm not sure i get what you mean about the construction of the arguments vs the content.

by content, do you mean the text line by line? i've found that to be the greatest of pleasures with people like nietzsche above everyone else, and roland barthes, or some of marx, and aristotle's nicomachean ethics, and the schlegels and other german romantics, and camus, and marcus aurelius, and even some of plato, and other people i can't recall at the moment (i just woke up and haven't had breakfast).

i am aware however that sometimes important ideas are presented in turgid prose, so in that case i take a look at the interpreters and commentators, but i think sometimes this is just a surface. what i've read of adorno's asthetics was indecipherable simply because he wrote in a language that was alien to me, and what appeared to be a simple word was in fact a specialized term loaded with hegelian thought. i did not know what the words meant. so i sat with my advisor over coffees & peppered him with questions until i deciphered the thing, which was actually not bad once understood.

about spinoza, i don't believe a word he says, but i'm curious about his frikkin proofs and how the book is structured. but like i said, just curiosity, like visiting the pyramids without believing that the pharaoh is in the afterlife with his dead slaves.

about the greeks: some stuff is fun, some is utter caca, but they did lay the tracks, so to speak, and began to pose a lot of questions we haven't finished answering yet, so i always find them necessary, because even the most recent stuff will be answering to them (eg. derrida vs plato). so it's like doing push-ups i guess.

alright i need some caffeine and eggs...

05.26.2010, 01:32 PM	#18
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,683	glice-- im planning on starting with kant to get to hegel-- i've read people like the schlegel bros. and schelling, and some accounts of fichte which have more or less prepared me for the hardcore german idealism, but my readings of kant are limited... i know it might be horrible prose but i'll give it a shot regardless. i'm not sure i get what you mean about the construction of the arguments vs the content. by content, do you mean the text line by line? i've found that to be the greatest of pleasures with people like nietzsche above everyone else, and roland barthes, or some of marx, and aristotle's nicomachean ethics, and the schlegels and other german romantics, and camus, and marcus aurelius, and even some of plato, and other people i can't recall at the moment (i just woke up and haven't had breakfast). i am aware however that sometimes important ideas are presented in turgid prose, so in that case i take a look at the interpreters and commentators, but i think sometimes this is just a surface. what i've read of adorno's asthetics was indecipherable simply because he wrote in a language that was alien to me, and what appeared to be a simple word was in fact a specialized term loaded with hegelian thought. i did not know what the words meant. so i sat with my advisor over coffees & peppered him with questions until i deciphered the thing, which was actually not bad once understood. about spinoza, i don't believe a word he says, but i'm curious about his frikkin proofs and how the book is structured. but like i said, just curiosity, like visiting the pyramids without believing that the pharaoh is in the afterlife with his dead slaves. about the greeks: some stuff is fun, some is utter caca, but they did lay the tracks, so to speak, and began to pose a lot of questions we haven't finished answering yet, so i always find them necessary, because even the most recent stuff will be answering to them (eg. derrida vs plato). so it's like doing push-ups i guess. alright i need some caffeine and eggs...
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