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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

We are talking about the exact same thing, the difference is that my entire argument is that VOTING is absolute LEAST thing you can do to ACTUALLY and DIRECTLY solve the problems of our society, one individual at a time. The solutions I propose involve each individual doing his best for the greater good, and the interconnection of these individual efforts will combine to solve the problems. The problems were created by each of us allowing the shit to hit the fan, and so each one of us has to clean it up, and voting is more like diagnosing the mess, without getting out the mop to beginning actually cleaning.

balls. voting is THE BEGINNING. if you can't even get your ass to the voting booth, you're not going to get into any kind of community involvement or shit like that.