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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy
So Kevin07 is a christian, who cares he is far less evil than the current scum fuck that has been controlling our land for the last 11 years. There is actually over 70 federal parties involved in the election, and you have a right to vote for any of them if you vote below the line, however if you waste your vote and vote above then your preferences are handed over on your behalf. These small parties can enact change even if they only get one seat in the upper house. I understand your angst slightly but I'm over it I had the same thoughts when i was 17 turning 18 and just about to vote in my first federal election (keating v howard). I also want to be able to get a beer at a pub on good friday............................................ ........
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No I agree with you on the Howard bit. He is a horrible PM.
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Originally Posted by Pax Americana
Well several of the men we call the "founding fathers" weren't Christians at all. Many of them were actually Deists, such as our third president Thomas Jefferson, as noted above. That's why I get so annoyed when people in this country claim it was founded on Christian values. People who make those kind of claims sadly don't know much about the history of their own country.
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Really? That's very interesting.