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Old 10.18.2007, 06:08 PM   #398
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!@#$%!

I've been reading back through your last couple of long and varied posts and note the clever use of smoke and mirrors to evade the initial point of this discussion

The comparison between prohibition and drugs laws and the current immigration laws being one example

Lets take a look at what you and I have said

We have both said there should be a fairer set of immigration laws/rules to allow people entry from skilled to unskilled

We have both said that immigration is necessary to an economy

And yet you call me a protofascist?

Hmm if thats the case you better stick the same label on yourself

One point that you are missing though is this, the country I live in is MY country, and the country of all the people that live here legitimately

Its up to us, the population, who comes in and doesnt, just the same as you wouldnt let anyone just walk in your house

Or are you stating that people in their own country dont have the right to determine who moves in?

As for laws, yes people can test them and get them changed as in the sodomy case

The good thing about a healthy judicial system is that it constantly evolves and changes with society

But there is a fundamental difference between testing a law because you think its wrong and just breaking it because it doesnt suit your interests as is the case with illegal immigrants and those who employ them

Lets not pretend illegal immigrants break the law for the sake of some higher moral ideal, they dont, they break it because they want your money, education system, health system, housing etc

Some are willing to work for those, some arent

As for the breaking the law article you posted, again sorry to disappoint you but I dont break any of those either, not even the one about the longbow as it was repealled decades ago and is now an urban myth

A more accurate source would have been www.statutelaw.gov.uk

As for presenting no ideas worthy of practical application, once again as we stated the same thing on the two main points of this discussion, you are as guilty as I

Tokolosh

Once again I will state I agree that some immgiration is necessary for a healthy economy

The report you cite is quite interesting, as the previous one some 6 months ago by the government, which, I hasten to add, they didnt like, stated the net input to the economy per migrant worker was in fact 4 pence per person per year

Thats after you take out everything such as free health, education etc etc

What I also find interesting is how a government that has been forced to admit it has absolutely no idea how many migrants, legal and illegal are in this country can calculate figures on an unknown quantity

If you dont kow how many migrants you have how the hell can you determine how much they put into the economy?

Like all statistics you can get them to say anything you like, and governments usually and frequently do
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