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This isn't my opinion - this is fact. I don't expect everyone, in any circumstances to agree with me.
I'm just baffled as to how there is even a debate on certain issues.
Can anyone say Jimmy Page was a bad guitar player?
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dude, jimmy page is a horrible guitar player, you don't have to look further than led zeppelin's live recordings. mistakes and muffled notes galore!!! still, not being a technical proficient guitarist, he was still enormously influential and, for people like me, go over him and his mistakes than other, maybe "better" guitarists. not yo mention his work as a songwriter and engineer, he was more groundbreaking in those areas than his guitar playing.
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Can anyone say Nirvana was not one of the first grunge bands to really hit the mainstream?
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that one is true, but then, what's a grunge band? is jane's addiction grunge?
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Can anyone say the White Stripes weren't one of the first 'modern' bands (when I say that, I mean in the last couple of years) to revive garage rock?
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ok, big misunderstanding caused by rock journalist and critics trying to make the white stripes more than they are. first of all, garage rock never died, big fucking myth!! in fact, the first time "garage rock" became popular is in the early 2000s, garage rock bands, from their beginnings in the 60's (which i might add, yes, they were a couple of bands who had hit singles but it wasn't like a scene or movement; persception-wise, they are little more than one hit wonders) until it's commercial peak a couple of years ago, have always been around playing that kind of music, all around the world. it hasn't hit commercially but that doesn't mean they didn't exist; so the white stripes didn't have anything to revive.
secondly, the white stripes were influenced and preceeded by such bands who played garage rock in the 90's like the new bomb turks, the oblivians and of course, the jon spencer blues explosion. among billions of others all around the world.
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I'm not trying to revive the thread here, or give the above as opinionated gospel. These things aren't my opinion anyhow - they are simple truths, actual events, documented phenomena.
I have no qualms with people that don't agree with me. This whole issue isn't about who likes which band and why. It's the acknowledgement of what a band has done by objective criteria, and some people's conclusions just surprise me.
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perhaps what people are confusing are facts and influence with recognition (too much recognition for overrated, too little for underrated) and i guess that's what's driving you crazy
i commented in here since you brought it and you were talking about facts. well, here are the facts.