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Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)

Just conscious of the time I've put into this conversation.
Let me remind you that this is what I started with:



But I'm happy that apparently you've conceded that the biden administration bears some responsibility in this conflict.

well yeah of course they are responsible for their jobs. of that there is no question. there is no need to be happy about me seeing that. i just would not frame such responsibility the way you did. i dont think the choices they faced were so simple on the ground, there are many tradeoffs to every choice, and i think they have been doing okay in spite of some bad results and incoherences with congress etc. i would not mock their failures

could they have done better? sure. how? i dont know. i am not a subject matter expert. i like mearsheimer's reasoning and i know my own local propaganda lines, but i really don't know-know

and i know we fear experts but here is an "expert analysis" of various possible trump scenarios anyway: https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/27...ia-war-europe/
mierda, i paywalled myself. i was able to open that in private browser ... anyway see if you can read it. just to see some of the angles in play

(im not asking that you BELIEVE that article or its analysis or trust its proposals, only that you see some of those possibilities as pure possibilities, along with others you might see)

anyway i AM happy you sent me to mearsheimer though, a very interesting thinker which i had already heard *but not on the subject of russia*

so it's been well worth the time spent for me

but have you heard him talk about gaza?

here you go, torture your conscience: https://youtu.be/kAfIYtpcBxo

that is another no exit scenario. for anyone