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Old 11.26.2024, 11:58 PM   #1470
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Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)
Nothing is beyond discussion. It's just that it doesn't make much sense to expect clarity from someone so invested in this war as Carl Bildt.
Maybe he is not that well known in the US. Lookup his role on things like the Iraq war, it might change your perspective on his opinion.
no, i'm not looking for sermons in this one. it's about the dialectic. i wanted to see maersheimer confronted rather than just applauded

realists and neocons have been fighting it out in policy since at least the 70s. both believe earnestly in their philosophies. so i enjoyed the confrontation. the further clarity comes from there, testing one ideology with the other

bildt is the conservative here, mearsheimer is actually a berniebro lol

but bildt is man of the world whereas mearsheimer is a man of ideas. and bildt did add some interesting facts that do not fit mearsheimer's theories. this isn't math, after all. there is no absolute proof

oh, and the opening yourself to nuclear blackmail... mearsheimer didnt have a good response to that. find a "modus videndi", sure. which one? describe it.
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