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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Maybe, but what credence do you give to SF being taken seriously in academia? At least the oscars have some impact on what kinds of films are made, who makes them, who stars in them, etc. It's nice that academia accepts SF but I don't see how it actually impacts on the genre. I wouldn't even say the writing on SF has improved since university departments have decided its now worthy of discussion.

if it's given credence in academia then at least the college kids are reading some of it. and that's a good thing.

but in general i give little credence to most academic writing these days. this is why i said SF's acceptance was one of the few good side effects of the rise of cultural studies-- the others are dismal, like-- cheap applied sociology as hifalutin' "theory". but you already know that lol.

the other thing i forgot to answer to severian is that-- his complaint seemed to me in the end about scientists not taking science fiction seriously. which, ok. why would they?

but also i don't know that the oscars really matter in the end. yes it adds sales and publicity for a while, but it doesn't make movies magically stick in the public consciousness or endure time.

didn't that shitfeast avatar win a bunch of oscars anyway? that was science fiction.

OTOH matrix (the first) was of course way better and i don't know if it won anything, but i don't know if anyone cares if it didn't?

the matrix is such a part of the culture now, it's part of how we understand the world. remember when h8kurdt found zonal marking and said something like "that shit's like the matrix"? (or something like that).

we've had lots of good science fiction lately as i recall. gravity. moon. the martian (i haven't seen the martian yet but i've read good reviews). i liked the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy w/ sam rockwell. the scottish one with scarlett. the other one with scarlett that's not as good. the spike jonze one about the OS-- her--that's scarlett too lol. i coud go on. oh! 2046 is a scifi film but do we think of war kai wong as a scifi filmmaker? no...

existenz. cosmopolis. the one with clive owen about the last baby something something? there are too many to think about it. even the superhero movies are science fiction movies-- thor, avengers, all that BS ends up boiling down to technology these days-- "tesseracs" or something.

no. science fiction is the MAIN mode of fiction these days. if it doesn't get prizes it's probably because dinosaurs are the ones handing them out.

but it doesn't matter because h8kurdt is gonna see things throught the filter of the matrix anyway.