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Originally Posted by Severian

I agree with this, though I'm not sure I can get behind "fuck the presidency" after the Betsy DeVoss announcement. The president can do an extraordinary amount of damage, especially with full backing from the house and senate.

Betsy Fucking DeVoss. I just can't believe it. Any illusion that this idiot may have had an ounce of integrity or any intention at all to run the country in a responsible way has been completely snuffed out by his cabinet vetting. And I look back at the primaries and see him encouraging violence against dissenters and members of the press, and I think, "If you voted for this man, you are either monumentally stupid or certifiably insane." What the fuck are we supposed to do here? How are we supposed to interact with these people?

And yes, evollvove, I too am walking on eggshells to not sound like a liberal elite. To not sound OFFEND the people who proudly know nothing about their country or their candidate. I'm trying to be better, but those people aren't worried about offending me, or offending the minority groups they crapped on with their vote. Why are we expected to play nice here? Why are we being guilted into bringing a box of chocolates to a Fucking knife fight?

you're bringing a knife to a gun fight is your problem

to the man with a hammer every problem is a nail is your problem

i.e. your "weapon" can't win shit

the goal is to persuade the voters to give a majority of votes in the electoral college to a candidate. and the states to elect democratic governors and legislatures and members of congress.

if your method is to proclaim your moral and intellectual superiority then good luck with that.

"hello i'm your regional pepsi salesman. i hear you prefer coke?"
"yeah i drink coke my daddy drank coke my granpappy drank coke, for generations"
"well sir you're clearly morally and intellectually inferior and you should stop drinking coke like a fucking redneck and buy pepsi and be enlightened"
"fuck you and the delivery truck you rode in"

you gotta give the people what they want-- not what you want. can't force them to like you.

as for fuck the presidency i meant-- the focus of democrats in elections. the narrow view. the last bastion of a losing war. wtf. will never win that way. to have the house is to have the nation. to have the senate is to have the nation. the presidency without congress is gelded.