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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Oh OK, yeah, that would've been great. I suppose it's just about budgets. But yeah, more could've been made of the caves.

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Maybe Trump should play him in the remake: pushes himself on women : doesn't like brown people. Hmmm.



I don't see the need for a remake. It is what it is and the gender stereotypes certainly don't detract from my enjoying the original. I'd have to stop watching 50s monster movies altogether if they did. Part of why I don't like the idea of those films being remade is that they're so defined by their own time. And saying that, the same audience that wanted the creature to be less human also objected to the suggestion that Kay and the hero were living in sin. The producers never changed the script on that point, which in its own modest way borders on subversive.

ha ha ha, trump. well eventually the monster kills whitey as well, but that's not the point i was trying to make. there are 2 things i conflated. one is the token browns of course, which is tiring, but whatever, it was what it was. the other is that the monster just up and kills people that are hanging out--so that makes him unsympathetic in my eyes.

the gender stereotype doesn't bother me in the sense that it's a stereotype, but that it sort of bothers the plot. if she was some impresario's trophy girlfriend, okay, but she's supposed to be a competent person who can handle herself as it's repeated several times (when they set the expedition and with the 3rd scientist in the ship). problem for me is that the action doesn't reflect that. i'm not trying to nitpick, but the dissonance got on the way of my enjoyment of the film.

also, i'm not saying that the movie needs a remake to make it politically correct, but rather, that a remake could be successful and (to me anyway) more interesting than the original... both for more well-rounded female roles and because of advances in photography.

but at the same time, we've already seen shit like that-- the annoying and in-your-face avatar, for example, with cartoon-zoe-saldaña. so, we don't need an underwater avatar. or the ET of the amazon. and ripley and sarah connor have already beaten a bunch of monsters. so maybe there's no room for a remake in that sense.

the real referent is king kong, and that movie has gotten a couple of remakes, though they haven't been great. i find the great ape a lot more sympathetic than the fishman though--many a grown man has shed tears for kong. he's sort of like the ape in all of us.