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!@#$%! · 09.02.2013, 07:20 PM

there are many "nihilisms"

the pre-revolutionary russians who terrorized the tsarists with their bombs and assassinations were called "nihilists".

the theists will call you a "nihilist" if you deny the existence of a supreme being because according to them you believe in "nothing" (as if the only thing worth believing in was their god). that definition likely extends to the type of amoral sociopath db describes, but they aren't the same-- the theists just equate both ("if you don't believe in god then what stops you from being a mass murderer?") but that's an artificial setup to con you into their fool game.

i prefer the nietzschean definition of "nihilist" which roughly covers, depending on context, a) one who values some inexistent "real" world (the afterlife, whatever) over this "world of illusions" ("deniers of the flesh" and other cowards fearful of their own desires), b) one who values nothing and has nothing to live for except as an eating/shitting/fucking self-perpetuating machine. if you think about it these are two sides of the same coin, i.e., the lack of "this world" values in two different expressions. now i'm sure looking at the texts one could come up with more versions of this but i'm not writing a paper here.

09.02.2013, 07:20 PM	#362
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,683	there are many "nihilisms" the pre-revolutionary russians who terrorized the tsarists with their bombs and assassinations were called "nihilists". the theists will call you a "nihilist" if you deny the existence of a supreme being because according to them you believe in "nothing" (as if the only thing worth believing in was their god). that definition likely extends to the type of amoral sociopath db describes, but they aren't the same-- the theists just equate both ("if you don't believe in god then what stops you from being a mass murderer?") but that's an artificial setup to con you into their fool game. i prefer the nietzschean definition of "nihilist" which roughly covers, depending on context, a) one who values some inexistent "real" world (the afterlife, whatever) over this "world of illusions" ("deniers of the flesh" and other cowards fearful of their own desires), b) one who values nothing and has nothing to live for except as an eating/shitting/fucking self-perpetuating machine. if you think about it these are two sides of the same coin, i.e., the lack of "this world" values in two different expressions. now i'm sure looking at the texts one could come up with more versions of this but i'm not writing a paper here.
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