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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
What, you think the Democrats wouldn't have done the same? Lets not kid ourselves here and expose each others mutual naivete 
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yep, it makes no difference to your know-it-allness.
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Oh you mean like how Democratic hawks like John Kerry are always suggesting?
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that's what fucking big-tent parties do-- they contain diverse constituences that fight it out for control of the party. within the democrats you have the progressives and the blue dogs, you have the unions and the christian left and the black caucus and the hispanic caucus and the feminists and prolifers and all manner of factions--
only in an addled ignorant imagination should all these people tow the party line in north-korean fashion and think as one. POWER IS NEGOTIATED, YOU FUCKING DOLT. every time "obama" (read "the executive branch") wants some legislation passed he (they) need(s) to talk and horse trade with every fucking faction to gain support. but no, you call this "a machine" and close your brain. fine. keep looking for all and every answer in your bong.