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Originally Posted by Murmer99
How was it incoherent?
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Because the plot was a total shamble?
I really have a lot of problems with this movie.
For one thing, I couldn't understand Bane nearly the whole movie. I've consulted with other people and they agreed with me, so it wasn't just my cinema's sound system.
Why was his name ROBIN? His name is Dick Grayson, you can't just make it ROBIN so idiotic people will understand who he is. I mean, you could have done it so many other ways than THAT. It's like if Bruce Wayne went into that woman's office and she said, "you should go by your full name... BATMAN". Dumb dumb dumb. Oh and Roland Daggett is suddenly John Daggett? You're doing a fan service by even including that character so why not just throw a bone to the fans and keep with ROLAND?
There would be no way for Batman to escape that nuclear explosion. Even if you said "oh he put the plane on autopilot", it doesn't work because you saw shots of him heading towards the sea. And we're meant to believe that he survived at the end? What was even up with the ending? Alfred literally sees Bruce and Selina sitting at a restaurant... It would have been so much better if you just saw Alfred give a quick nod then we would have gotten the idea.
So much terrible dialogue filled with pseudo-philosophical garbage. And what was up with Joseph Gordon Levitt's character? "I knew you were Batman because you're an orphan just like me"? Fucking STUPID.
Very cute political allusions too. Maybe Bane representing the underclass could have worked if he wasn't going to blow everyone up anyway. There was no point in it at all in terms of the plot and only served to provide shallow depth.
"You've given these people everything" "Not everything, not yet". Seriously what is the point in that if Batman was going to live at the end of it? It feels like they've spent the whole trilogy setting up the martydom for Batman only to pull out at the last minute with "Oh no, we can't have a sad movie, he needs to live with a happy ending". Fuck no.
So plot holes aside, the directing and editing was shoddy. I don't understand how Nolan needs to have such quickfire editing. Scenes that were supposed to be epic fell flat because the dude has no idea how to do camera angles. So many characters too that a lot of them just felt underdeveloped... Talia added nothing. Also cute how there was no blood in the movie to secure a lower rating... really makes sense when Talia is sitting in the truck dying with no blood coming out of her at all. I had no idea she was dying until she did, I thought she was just shocked/had a bad stitch.
There was so much more wrong with this movie but I'm drawing some blanks right now because it's been a number of days since I've seen it. You can say I'm nitpicking all you want but all of these added up make one incoherent mess of a movie. I'm surprised it's getting so much praise from people and I kind of wonder if we all watched the same movie. Sure, it was high budget and polished but I doubt most people I speak to would be fooled by that. I really wanted to like this movie but it just pissed me off.