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Old 07.14.2006, 08:35 AM   #63
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Originally Posted by chabib
hamas and hezbollah both have popular support because of their successful efforts to bring medical care, food, community programs and a militia that acts in lieu of a standing army unfettered by american dictates. it's no surprise that hamas was elected.

most arabs don't want israel pushed into the sea, but they'd certainly like for israel to release all of the tax money they've stolen from palestinians. they'd like for all of the illegal settlements to be destroyed. they'd like to not have their land carved up into little islands separated by settlements and protected highways for the IDF and settlers.

as an occupying force, israel has responsibilities established in a number of treaties. occupying forces are not allowed to build settlements. they're not allowed to destroy homes. they're supposed to ensure the well-being of the occupied population and assist in the maintenance of infrastructure, etc.

the israeli government is a massively whiney, greedy, illicit turd and it needs to be re-organized from the ground up--as does the american government.

the UN and brits essentially created israel, and neither entity can even stoop to support the behavior of the country's government as of late. it should say something that in the entire world community, only the US is standing by the israeli government right now.

to me, that says that people far more politically savvy than any of us believe that the israeli government is wrong and that the only entity that finds any merit in its present course of action is a paranoid, delusional bully like the US.

i hear that chabib, and i think as a larger picture that is accurate. but i do think hezbollah and other elements of the arab anger at the U.S occupation in Iraq simply does not want peace and is baiting Israel. Israel also did leave parts of Gaza not too long ago which was a major, major, concession.

HEzbollah and Hamas are extremists in essentially a broader holy war against the West and i think they are aligned with the insurgency in iraq war seeing it as a chance to help not only take down the U.S occupation, but stir it up with Israel as well. and their popularity is growing. that's very dangerous for Israel.
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