I fucking hate people and indiginous culture is on a major decline.
 

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learn TO WRITE IN FUCKING PARAGRAPHS NEXT-TIME ASSHOLE. I HATE BAD GRAMMAR CULTURE.

i don't think grammar is important - especially when you're drunk. haha. Please don't call me an asshole for trying to express frustration and debate though. though though though i'm predicting that reaction... manners.

I think Fugazi is boring.
Rock critics bless them, they seem to be a safe bet (I've never read any negative review about them)

fugazi are one of the most overated and extremely boring bands on the planet.

It takes a while to get to but this bit is great.

I know what you're feeling about nothing being genuine.

no dear, not that.

I'm trying to understand this, but one HUGE chunk of text is tough for me to process. Give it to me in bits and pieces (paragraphs) and yr story is much easier to assimilate. For me anyway.
But if something (or somebody) got you so pissed off that you had to rant on the board, I hope it makes you feel better.

grumble grumble grumble grumble everybody's a phony grumble

Please write on, I seek to warm myself against your brilliant flame of authenticity.

yr a right cunt.

lolwhut?

the rest of it, eh, just move on. I would've asked her what she thought of the show though, and whether she thinks they'll ever really make it..

Why is this board the most popular with drunks and junkies?

i like it that he edited it but i had quoted.

he sees someone do yoga and gets pissed off they aren't hiding away to do it because he's so self conciouss, he assumes everyone "ate it up" instead of - i dunno - cheering or being interested in what was said or how it was performed or just the whole experience. then he get's his panties in a twist because someone either makes the mistake or says that she saw fugazi when it was only one member.

this triggers off the realisation that "bullshit is prevalent and nothing, absolutely nothing seems genuine". is he angry about the political aspect of the show? is he pissed off the law of apolitical entertainment has been breached? is he pissed off that some girl made a phone call and didn't say what he considers to be the right reaction? who knows, who cares, why did i even type this much.

dude the only bullshit here is in your own head clogging up your perceptual aparatus.

yeah, damn you!

maybe now, but their first three LP's are fucking GOLD jerry, GOLD

yes, i have a problem expressing myself but the point is not that. It doesn't matter, I'm fine now. Thanks to the people that weren't jackasses towards me for being a twat and flaking out a bit. alas, if it were framed nicely.

Re: the scene described in the above "quote"

It is at times like those, when the new and the creative are squeezed out of our minds in reaction to the fucking tired bullshit.
as far as "genuine" or not goes, it is impossible to ascertain. You cannot and will never know what is in people's heads. the guy doing tai Chi may be very genuine, doing Tai Chi to get focused before gigs, and for all you know he does this every time, and has for years. No way to know. he could have been just fucking around, no wayto know.
the beauty of art, any art, is that there is alway a flux. There are always a few people who are just now catching on, just nopw discovering tasty shit like Picasso or Sonic Youth, or Fugazi if fugazi is yr cup o tea. There are always a few people who know so much, have heard/seen/experienced so much that they come off like smug assholes proclaiming that all the others are stupid and disingenious. The majority of everyone, fans of all the arts, are in themiddle.
they know a lot, but nowhere near enough to be "expert."
where do you falll?

the whole act of punk rock was that it was "genuine". but that is a relative term. even such a freak as GG Allin, or the Dwarves, who seemed reckless, breathtakingly of-the-moment performers were just going through the motions most of tyhe time. once you ahve played more than a few gigs, or are on tour, you end up playing nearly the same set of tunes every night for weeks, or months. yet it has to "seem" genuine and spontaneous to each new audience.

when I was 17 or so I saw dinosaur jr in austin TX and the the next day in Houston. They played the same set but for two songs. It made me a bit upset, but then I thought to myself, if I had to play many consecutive gis in front of what is essentialy a wholly new and different crowd every week, why would you change it up all that much?
It made me more appreciative of a band like Phish, who have never played the same set twice, who almost never play the same song the same w3ay twice, and who actively seek to engage a fanbase with constantly shifting and changing setlists.
this is hard to do for regular rock, or punk rock. the setlist is the setlist. No one wants to hear sonic youth do Hoarfrost in a bossanova style, (well, I would, and I know lots of opeople here would, but I am talking about the MEAT of the crowd who want to hear the songs they love like they always sound.)

if you become disappointed at the lack of genuineness (that's not a word rght?) maybe it is because you expected it where there should not be any to begin with.

rambling rant over

remember in the 80s when metal guitarists would play their guitar solos as if it was th hardest etude they had ever seen, making faces and straining to reach the notes and all that shit? all showmanship those fuckers could play every damn solo in their sleep. but the fans wanna see the metal gods work hard at their craft!

disingenious? maybe, but it is after all performance.
all performance contains within itself superficiality and irrelevance. The great performers make it look spontaneous.

i went to see joe lally in dublin last friday night and i must say i thought the audience were one of the most non-receptive i've ever experienced. either they were too cool for school or just the biggest bunch of straight-edge lamos i've ever encountered. i had the audacity to break the silence in between some of the songs by saying something like "good stuff joe" to which he answered "it's not about who makes the music". :confused: i enjoyed the gig but the atmosphere was somewhat perplexing.

that sounds like the worst gig ever. I hate it when the crowd feigns indifference.

and what the FUCK does "It's not about who makes the music." mean?

that shit sounds like some fucking bullshit that the singer siongwriter WUSS FUCKS in the late 70's would ahve said, Croce, Taylor, those boring fucking assholes.

Genuineness is the opposite of the rnr circus, music industry, show business, video clip etc.
So it means, "we wear jeans and t-shirts, we're normal, buy our records!": genuineness sucks.
(but I've never read or heard a band saying: "we're genuine", even Fugazi)

even Fugazi, as genuine as their fans claim them to be, were not truly straight edge. they had girfriends, children, drank, smoked cigs. . .

ha! that shit is funny!



and for y'all straightedge gangster rappers

GENUINESS

by the way i was going to see that at some point
but then i thought
his name is lally

Various forms of nazis are important in maintaining various forms of purity.

"Oh.. now i'm scared.."