Is it wrong that i dont feel comfortable being an organ donor?
 

Everytime this topic comes up with someone and i tell them i personally dont want to be an organ donor, they jump in my fuckin shit about it. I just dont feel that comfortable with it at the moment, having my dead body tampered with. I know, "its not like you need it" and "your possibly saving lives" and all that stuff but i just feel wierd about it. And i cant believe how people have such big heads about it, i mean who cares if i dont want to?

any thoughts?

What's weird about it?

Caring about what happens to your body after you're dead can be seen as extremely unhelpful and selfish when viewed by people who need (or have loved ones who need) your corneas to see with or your internal organs to stay alive.
You know, because it is extremely selfish and unhelpful and the only reasons people can give for this position are "God told me not to" or "Idowanna."

Which is your choice, of course.

i feel wierd having my name on some list and someones life depending on me. I know its selfish and maybe a bit irrational but its like a death wish. Knowing my organs are going in a jar in the back of some freezer truck or something is kinda wierd. Im being stupid about it, ill sign up someday.

It's not a death wish, it's a death gift.
Payable upon death. The people "on the list" aren't waiting for YOU to die, they are waiting for SOMEONE compatible to die. It's the silver lining of death.
It's still your choice, but if you also say you want to be cremated I'll smack you.
You know, figuratively.

Do you fear death so much that you hate to be reminded of it?

you're fucked up
seek professional help



just kidding
no, but seriously
don't be an ass, donate your organs
you won't need them when you're rotting underground

my only concern with this shit is that the corpse harvesters might be lined up by my bedside waiting for me to croak rather than give me proper medical attention.

but once dead-- who gives a fuck? it's meat, man. fucking MEAT. like a side of beef. barbecue it, make jerky, implant it on somebody else-- who gives a shit?

but anyway, you do whatever you fucking want, don't let some preachy motherfucker get in your face & what not (as you say). tell them firmly: MIND YOUR OWN MOTHERFUCKING BUSINESS. no??

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ps for a fun take on this shit watch almodovar's "all about my mother"-- genius shit.

You're only 17, maybe you' re too young to understand what death really is... and it's normal. You should study the "emo precepts" to understand what it is.
No, forget that.

Personally, I'm not all that attached to my organs. I've never even seen most of them and just assume their existence by educated signals (heart beat, stomach ache). I don't really feel ownership of them because I am them and if some of them fail (thus killing me) than what should hapen to the others? I grew up wearing my brother hand-me-down's so I kind of see organ donation like that. Except instead of growing out of them, I'm undone by them.

this is bit of a shit song i know but it was weird, and how very relevant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4

quite.

Want I meant is that I wouldn't be put off with donating an organ. Even if I was alive, I would donate an extra kidney or whatever to a family member or good friend.

You all have made great points and helped me think about this. Its not something that i should feel wierd about. I fear death and it reminds me of that (like bradley said) It makes me imagine my body without "me"(or spirit) in it. But, like !@#$% said, it is fuckin meat, remnants from me, like shit and brains. I still fear someone letting me die when im old to give some young kid my heart or something(im horrible). Its probably safe to say i will be fine without it in the after-life. Its gonna rot in the ground anyway (good point crypto). Who cares what happens with it afterwards(black market, medical/scientifical stuff, etc.)?

So, i have changed my mind in about 4 hours, good job on that one thx. Next time i get my licensed renewed or whatever ill do it, but im definitley never going to be one of those preachy bastards that makes you feel like an idiot if you dont agree with them (BTW: im in no way reffereing to any of you)

You can stuff me when I die and keep me in your living room if you want?
I don't give two shits about what happens to by body when I die. If someone needs an organ and mine is compatible, they can knock themselves out. I'll be dead and really not caring.

hey ill think about it and get back to you. ill see if i have any spots left

I used to love coming up with silly ideas to do with my body after I died. But its easy to forget what your family and friends must be feeling when they see your now still corpse. I know death still affects me when I see it. While I seem to be more stoic about my own death, the death of others is immediately painful to me. I wouldn't want to aggitate my family even more with such post-existential fancies. So I care to an extent as I look forward to it now.

Emmah's hot, do it.

Have you seen Monty Python and The Meaning of Life?

That's exactly what happens.

I know what you mean.
Not that I've lost many people or anything, but if when my grandpa died they just tossed his body into a dumpster, I would be pissed.
Or if someone were to play hacky sack with my old rats dead body, I would go ccrraazzyy haha.
My body though, whateverrr...

Yep, death is always interesting/important to think about. (completely irrelevant but Jonh Frusciante's album "The Will To Death" is amazing but thats just me)




According to her profile we're both born in 90! woot! good year

People actually look at my profile?
I don't think I ever look at anyone's

Yea, i kinda thought it disrespectful to mess with dead people, but if they signed up for it, its fine, everyones happy.

I think yours may be the first one i have ever viewed

I want to be cremated when I am dead. I don't want to be buried. I also want them to turn me into a stone, so my relatives could wear it.

ok from very very first hand experience.... i received a kidney from someone when i was 24 and it saved my life, i was given 6 months to live at the age of 24, which as it is older than alot of the people on this board. it is also coming to that time again when i will need another in the next 3-5 years. it has saved my life once and can do it again, but there is a severe lack of donors in australia which means i could be dead within 3-5 years if i donot get one. dialysis can only sustain your body for so long and your body grows incredibly weak over a short amount of time. how the fuck is it disrespectful to mess with dead people, our bodies are bio machines and need spare parts just like a regular machine made of metals and other materials. they do wear out and the lives of many many people can be extended by those willing to donate when they are dead. i am a donor myself, and always have been since i was able to sign into the program. i still have organs that can be used. currently the kidney i have is 65 years old and i am 34. my mother donated hers and nearly died while having hers removed just to give me a second chance at life.

donor programs should be opt out not opt in. it would save alot of people like myself and people who donot want to donate still have the choice to not do so.

i don't mind if people don't want to donate because it is their choice because it is their body so that is perfectly fine but i like to think that people can be a bit more altruistic.

i myself have been on many new drug trials for different medications for the furthering of knowledge of medical practitioners. without people willing to sacrifice a little for the sake of future generations humanity slows down its development.

so really have a thorough think about it and if you still don't want to then great but if you do want to donate then that is far better. once you a dead you are no different to a slab of pork belly in my oven or a piece of dust on the wind. you are not your body, you are just carried by a temporary vehicle which enables physical experiences inform how you develop mentally and emotionally.

tell it to someone, like me, whose mother needs a liver transplant, and will likely not get one because the waiting list is ridiculously long and the donor list is ridiculously short because too many people have that same me ntality you are talking about. enjoy your rotting flesh when you are dead.

In the future, body parts will probably be sold over the counter. Until then, I'll donate any part of my body that can be used to better someone elses life.

No sperm though.

TEH WINNER

end of story.

I have changed my mind, so lets all just be friends.

I also have a grandfather who had a heart transplant about 3 years ago, so i definitley know what its like somewhat for someone to be in a life or death situation. Hes in his 60's and got an 18 year olds heart, and hes doin great.

dude, it really is your decision, and you ahve to go with what you feel, but there are a LOT of people who you could help.

if you live to a ripe old age then your organs would be pretty much useless, but, if by some freak accident, you die young, then there are maybe 20-30 people who could benefit from your one body's organs alone.

just being an organ donor is not enough, you need to tell all your freinds, make sure you put it o your license, tell your family and everyone else, because after yr dead, you will say nothing, and if you do not make it clear to those around you that this is what you want, they will do what THEY want.

they resuscitate folks who would otherwise die just to harvest their organs, I say you there is no trouble with you not wanting to be a part of that process.

i don't care what happens after i die
do whatever you want with me

Yes, being an organ donor is pretty cool cause what else would your dead body do which is actually usefull and not a complete waste of space like graveyards.

but whatever, i probably wouldnt sign up...

I am a donor.... but the only problem I have with it is I feel kinda funny about someone having my eyes after I'm dead. Don't really know why, but I think its to do with how massively I perceive the world through them. I feel like someone would be seeing the world through my eyes. Obviously I will be dead though so that's probably a bit retarded. It's not gonna stop me donating them.

I watched a really interesting (and probably pretty made up) documentary once about people getting some of their donor's characteristics after receiving a heart... and then it turned out that there are some brain type stem cells or some such in the heart. It was pretty freaky but cool. I like the idea of some of me living on after I die too.

This is a good thread. I haven't been on here in an age and I like to come back to discussion like this!

its not about what happens after you die, you are not dead when they resuscitate you, you are just unconscious, they prolong and agonize your death in order to harvest you like a butcher, now it may be for a good cause, but that is quite the sacrifice, you and I do not know what people's true last moments are, or what they are worth, but from the religious traditions and rituals associated with death and last right's rituals, I would assume it is a significant spiritual/metaphysical experience. that being said, I would not want to fuck with that for anything, even if I was the one who needed the organ. surely the 15-20 minutes they save by keeping near dead folks alive to preserve their organs is not worth the interruption of a persons last exprience of this world.

how the fuck did you get that reputation back so quickly?

i didn't, nor will i, even read that. i don't need a lecture from a white rastafarian thank you.

note: fuck you, that was not a lecture, it was a reasoning, but if you'd like to be a bitch about, you have my response. its not all fun and games all the time, rastaman vibration is positive yes, but we wont take not shit!

yeah, if you're a REAL rastafarian, not a white boy from suburban california.

Why you wanna get caught up in all this mix up mix up? Just because it is fashionable to hate on my posts on this board because I am Rastafari, does not make it acceptable.

Rastafari is not some petty race conception, it is the universal conception of humanity. there is no distinction of 'jew or greek' 'white or black' 'dread or baldhead' we are all one of, in, and through Jesus Christ. who are you to judge Rastafari? you dont even know what you speak, so why throw stones from yr glasshouse? Jesus it is silly! real Rastafari dont use the word Rastafarian, because it is all humanity as one, we are all Rastafari, and the term refers to Our God, Our Culture, and our Mutual Experience.

haha