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Dead-Air 03.24.2008 05:25 PM

Dr. Death for Senate!
 
At Last a Candidate We Can Get Behind!

Lurker 03.24.2008 05:27 PM

Good for him.

!@#$%! 03.24.2008 05:32 PM

good for michigan if he gets elected

krastian 03.24.2008 05:36 PM

Running on the "get out of Iraq, let's get all get high and kill ourselves peacefully" ticket.

Lurker 03.24.2008 05:41 PM

I suppose if he wins the headlines will say "Senate Dr For Death".

Dead-Air 03.24.2008 10:24 PM

I just wonder if the AARP will endorse him or not!

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 08:39 AM

I have always admired Dr. Kevorkian. I have read his work since high school.

mangajunky 03.25.2008 08:43 AM

I love to be an asshole so I just wanted to point out that he's running for Congress and not the Senate. It's a little easier to get into Congress.

Lurker 03.25.2008 08:51 AM

I didn't pay any attention to that, I don't know the difference, I'm British.

pbradley 03.25.2008 09:03 AM

I kind of wish Strom Thurmond was still alive.

So Kevorkian could ease his passing.

Anyways, I'm favorable to physician-assisted suicide but Kevorkian just looks evil. Like bat boy.

 


 

!@#$%! 03.25.2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
I kind of wish Strom Thurmond was still alive.

So Kevorkian could ease his passing.

Anyways, I'm favorable to physician-assisted suicide but Kevorkian just looks evil. Like bat boy.


 





i dont think he's evil but he seems to favor a certain mr. rogers look

 


 

tesla69 03.25.2008 11:13 AM

then on the other hand there's the guy who legally changed his name to Pro-life.

I wonder if I could change my name to Kill All Fascists. I would request that I be paged in airports and bars.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air


i prefer to cast my vote with


 




Buried the last bodies in Canada
In Toronto, I used to jerk off in a ten room condo
with serious surgery Dr. Dooom workin in the office building
Drivin some Bronco like O.J. Simpson



Nervous
smokin a pack of Winston's
With twenty-seven dead people in Pontiac, Michigan
Twenty-eight in Denver, twenty-eight I can't remember
Walkin through a town called Gatesville
You suckers out there know how Norman Bates feel
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
From a little town, that's right a tore down house
with some real estate in Peatskill
I ran a meat market behind Johnny Rocket's
Paid truckers to haul body pieces from the East to the West
with the devil branded on your chest
I had to step up and the judge wrote confess
Watch the whole Arkansas Kansas City testify
against my lies and my alibis, I was suprised
My lawyers dressed in black
and a Rolls Royce buried in the back
Arms missing, knees cut down to the knubs
All I had was people to grub
Stories to tell to the Enquirer
how I set a bunch of people in the nightclub on fire
My intention was to get even like Spielberg
Throw like Stephen King, Children of the Corn on a swing
I stuck needles in your face like Pinhead
You been dead for eighty hours in a college dorm
with a thunderstorm, lightning with big bolts
I used to hang with Jim Jones before he started the cults
The SSA, the Sacrifice and Serve-it Angle
I'm the next strangler
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?
Take that body and bag it, then I'm outta sight!
Hey what's that smell down there?

!@#$%! 03.25.2008 11:47 AM

im ready to euthanize my eyes

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 12:19 PM

Kevorkian paints some freaky shit
 


 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Kevorkian paints some freaky shit

 



 


most serial killers do.

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 12:35 PM

kevorkian has not killed anyone. he has helped others kill themselves, something which should be an inalienable human right. we shoul be able to die as we see fit. fuck the churches and thelaws and the bullshit "morality" that tells us a human has to endure the fucking HORRID pain and sufferuing iof a chronic illness.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
kevorkian has not killed anyone. he has helped others kill themselves, something which should be an inalienable human right. we shoul be able to die as we see fit. fuck the churches and thelaws and the bullshit "morality" that tells us a human has to endure the fucking HORRID pain and sufferuing iof a chronic illness.


dude you are fucking crazy, nobody should have the right to assist in a suicide. that is just fucking nuts, all bullshit aside, who should we give the authority to do such an act? seriously, look at what you are talking about. the world is full of horid pain everywhere. should people who are starving or homeless or diseased just off themselves just because it is easier?

assisted suicide is like the penultimate symbol of the backwardsness of american so-called medicine, which perpetuatly treats the symptom and not the disease, and further ignore prevention in the name of profit. fuck that shit, I-man won't stand for it.

life is suffering, sorry, I didn't make this shit up. teach it to yr children well, lest they become hopeless and forlorn, with their broken heart in hand trying to make sense of the world...

if we just let people go around helping each other kill each other, what the fuck kind of place would that be?

"where is the love, to be found? I tell you that life, sweet life, has got to here, in this ya concrete jungle..."

Lurker 03.25.2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
kevorkian has not killed anyone. he has helped others kill themselves, something which should be an inalienable human right. we shoul be able to die as we see fit. fuck the churches and thelaws and the bullshit "morality" that tells us a human has to endure the fucking HORRID pain and sufferuing iof a chronic illness.



I agree with you, just only for people who are completely right in the head.

Lurker 03.25.2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
dude you are fucking crazy, nobody should have the right to assist in a suicide. that is just fucking nuts, all bullshit aside, who should we give the authority to do such an act? seriously, look at what you are talking about. the world is full of horid pain everywhere. should people who are starving or homeless or diseased just off themselves just because it is easier?

assisted suicide is like the penultimate symbol of the backwardsness of american so-called medicine, which perpetuatly treats the symptom and not the disease, and further ignore prevention in the name of profit. fuck that shit, I-man won't stand for it.

life is suffering, sorry, I didn't make this shit up. if we just let people go around helping each other kill each other, what the fuck kind of place would that be?

"where is the love, to be found? I tell you that life, sweet life, has got to here, in this ya concrete jungle..."





What the fuck are talking about? If people who were starving wanted to kill themselves they would have done it already, idiot. And what would be wrong with that anyway? It's their choice.

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 12:49 PM

life is suff3ering is a LOAD of shit

orgasms are not suffering

tasty food is not suffering
rock n roll music making you feel great is not suffering

Life is equal parts suffering and joy and everytrhing in between

what I am talking about is people who are going to die, or who are going to end up in a vegetable state, braindead, who want to end their lioves with soem dignity, with some semblance of themselves still existing.

have you ever watched a loved one die of cancer, watching their bodies and brains get eaten up from within, taking a YEAR or more to die? Lying in a bed, shitting themselves, unable to talk for the last 4 months of life, weighing 75lbs? I HAVE. I watched my father die slowly and ignobly and painfully. The horror in his eyes for the last 3 months of "life" was something that fucked me up for years and years. fuck that shit man.

Go read up on euthanasia and Dr kevorkian and his crusade for people to duie with dignity, not to die numbed by morphine for the last months of their lives.

Lurker 03.25.2008 12:50 PM

Thanks, a much better argument.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
life is suff3ering is a LOAD of shit

orgasms are not suffering

tasty food is not suffering
rock n roll music making you feel great is not suffering

Life is equal parts suffering and joy and everytrhing in between

what I am talking about is people who are going to die, or who are going to end up in a vegetable state, braindead, who want to end their lioves with soem dignity, with some semblance of themselves still existing.

have you ever watched a loved one die of cancer, watching their bodies and brains get eaten up from within, taking a YEAR or more to die? Lying in a bed, shitting themselves, unable to talk for the last 4 months of life, weighing 75lbs? I HAVE. I watched my father die slowly and ignobly and painfully. The horror in his eyes for the last 3 months of "life" was something that fucked me up for years and years. fuck that shit man.

Go read up on euthanasia and Dr kevorkian and his crusade for people to duie with dignity, not to die numbed by morphine for the last months of their lives.



yes, actually I HAVE watched several loved ones die from cancer. it is not easy, but that does not give anyone the right to add needless options. I have also watched several people have full recovery from terminal cancers in stage D, so it is not hopeless. I went went my grandmother to her chemo twice a week when I was kid for nearly a year. she should have died twice, and the was in immense pain, had to have a colonoscopy etc.... etc.. and yet, she absolutely NEVER lost her will to live. now, what if my Grandmother, in a darker more depressed moment, decided to kill herself rather then endure? Further, my friend, be honest with yourself, we all feel hopeless and depressed sometimes, and some of us to the point of suicidal thoughts, but we cant just legitimize these thoughts because of pain. no good will come from it I assure you....



what if everybody killed themselves everytime they felt like it? we might start piling up bodies like at Jonestown I swear, think about how depressed the world is right now. one hundred million prescriptions for anti-depressant medication in America alone last year...


 

✌➬ 03.25.2008 12:52 PM

Thanks Rob.

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 12:54 PM

asian cultures see nothing wrong with determining your own death, with killing yourself. Buddha can go fuck his rich princely ass.

Lurker 03.25.2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 



You're argueing against suicide and you post a picture of Buddha? You're an idiot. Buddhism is just the death drive. Extinction of desire and destruction of the individual - that's just death, isn't it?

pbradley 03.25.2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
should people who are starving or homeless or diseased just off themselves just because it is easier?

If they choose to, yes. I would still encourage them to stick through the pain just as I would try to dissuade a terminally ill person from suicide. However I believe that everyone is fundamentally their own guardian, particularly on their own existence. Forcing a person to live despite their absolute choice to die is equal to forcing a person to die despite their absolute choice to live, in my eyes. Yes, there are consequences to suicide for those that remain (loved ones, etc.) but it is up to the suicidal to judge whether these consequences are worth the action. We can only remind them of the weight of the consequences.

Dead-Air 03.25.2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
assisted suicide is like the penultimate symbol of the backwardsness of american so-called medicine"


Just so you know, the word "penultimate" means "next to last". It gets misused an awful lot.

pbradley 03.25.2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Just so you know, the word "penultimate" means "next to last". It gets misused an awful lot.

But the ultimate symbol of the backwardsness of american so-called medicine is giving suckers only to children after a check up and not adults.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Just so you know, the word "penultimate" means "next to last". It gets misused an awful lot.


considering we are talking about death, I believe I used the word more then correctly.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Forcing a person to live despite their absolute choice to die is equal to forcing a person to die despite their absolute choice to live, in my eyes.


I have never in my life heard or used the term "forcing a person to live". absurd! i'm not here to live up to your expectations, and neither are you here to live up to mine, but regardless, human beings make a lot of fickle decisions, and I think that we should not let OTHER people help them kill themselves. Hey, if you want to kill yourself, that is fine, I would stop you personally, but it is your business to want to. but, letting someone else help you do the job? that is bullshit. if you can't kill yourself for physical or technical reasons, perhaps you dont really have such a right to begin with? further, it is pandora's box. people will abuse the privilege I assure you, we human beings have devoted 90% of our creativity to inventing new and fascinatingly efficient ways to kill each other, what else could you expect? how do you determine that a person wants to kill themself? what about comas? mutes? retards? people will abuse the process and begin to kill the disable and unspoken for and those who have no one to speak for themselves.

!@#$%! 03.25.2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurker
You're argueing against suicide and you post a picture of Buddha? You're an idiot. Buddhism is just the death drive. Extinction of desire and destruction of the individual - that's just death, isn't it?


teeee heeee

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.25.2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurker
You're argueing against suicide and you post a picture of Buddha? You're an idiot. Buddhism is just the death drive. Extinction of desire and destruction of the individual - that's just death, isn't it?


life is suffering is why I posted the buddha, maybe you should be a bit more perceptive before you put your foot in your mouth?

!@#$%! 03.25.2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I have never in my life heard or used the term "forcing a person to live". absurd! i'm not here to live up to your expectations, and neither are you here to live up to mine, but regardless, human beings make a lot of fickle decisions, and I think that we should not let OTHER people help them kill themselves. Hey, if you want to kill yourself, that is fine, I would stop you personally, but it is your business to want to. but, letting someone else help you do the job? that is bullshit. if you can't kill yourself for physical or technical reasons, perhaps you dont really have such a right to begin with? further, it is pandora's box. people will abuse the privilege I assure you, we human beings have devoted 90% of our creativity to inventing new and fascinatingly efficient ways to kill each other, what else could you expect?


thats a load of crap, son. so, since you can't perform brain surgery on yourself, you don't have a right to get brain surgery? since you cant get yourself pregnant, you dont have a right to make children? since you can't shove yourself out of the uterus, you don't have the right to be born? you can't raise yourself so you don't have a right to be raised? what about old farts who need assisted living. no right to it? please dude.

social life is all about interdependence. we get people's help all the time for all sorts of things. don't make up bullshit arguments please.

when i'm ready to off myself i wanna hire the best of the best for the job. fuck if i'm gonna leave it in the hands of some shitty amateur. fuck that and fuck your death police.

pbradley 03.25.2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
if you can't kill yourself for physical or technical reasons, perhaps you dont really have such a right to begin with?

Wait, so a person who would commit suicide with their own hand but is physically incapable of doing thus loses the right to suicide? What if the person, in their choice to die, refuses to eat but the doctors hook them up to an intravenous feeding mechanism? The doctor would be assisting the suicide if the doctor respected the patient's choice not to eat. The mechanism is forced life in this instance.

Also I'm not going to address a slippery slope argument. I'm concern with it out of principle. Agree with the principle or not, application is another matter.

Lurker 03.25.2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
life is suffering is why I posted the buddha, maybe you should be a bit more perceptive before you put your foot in your mouth?


No I understood that. What makes you think I didn't? I may as well have done the same to support my view.

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 02:48 PM

the Buddha is wholly inapropriate in this conversation
the Buddha taught that all suffering comes from desire. yeah right. tell that fucking whore of a king's son that leaving his daddy's house to go live in the woods, like some sort of trust fund rich boy, is not suffering.

Dead-Air 03.25.2008 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
considering we are talking about death, I believe I used the word more then correctly.


Really, how is death, "next to last"? Just curious.

Rob Instigator 03.25.2008 02:56 PM

assisted suicide is illegal by federal law, and evne in the states where it was legalized, like michigan, federal law surped it in a blatant violation of the 10th amendment of the bill of rights in the US Constitution

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