People who aren't environmentally conscious should
 

go fuck themselves in the ass.


Someone picked up my empty liter of root beer and threw it in the trash. I reached in and grabbed it and said "that's my recycling."

The person gave me the dirtiest look and said "well I don't recycle" as if it was a crime that I stopped him from throwing away something.

I hate people.

I'm in an environmental coma.

Doctors are giving me three years before they pull the plug.

someone i lived with once was so environmentally concious they didnt want me to flush the toilet everytime to save water.

well that is annoying. . . but when people give me tude because I believe in recycling and composting, it pisses me off.

I live with people like that too. They prefer a pool of yellow piss instead. Kind of contradictory considering the amount of toilet paper they use each time. I live with girls.

i do recycle everything and am really concious of the environment but i dont want people telling me how many times i can flush my toilet haha.

it is annoying though when people take on an attititude of not caring, like its someone elses problem.

While I am not enviromentally conscious as I probably should be (I don't throw crap out the window or anything), to look down on somebody like they are inferior because they recycle? That's crazy. Even if I don't really recycle, I think people SHOULD. I'm just lazy.

global warming.. pah!

we have had the worst summer on record. fuckin freezing in july!!!!!

spray more aerosol, throw out more fridges, make that hole bigger.....

...no only joking, i am environmentally aware to a point. i recycle in fact you have to recycle in ireland. we have 2 refuse bins. one waste and one recycling. it is in fact against the law to not recycle... i dont know how the police it but it is!

The US should adapt that law but as long as are fucktard president is in office will that wont happen and i doubt clinton would get ne thing done either

That's why you need to vote Kucinich

the goverment wont let me vote yet

is it 18 or 21 the voting age in the us?

its 18
its reasonable enough

It's 18, but there has been a giant drop in young voters.

Brings to mind how many "I'm not voting" threads that have polluted this board.

if u dont vote, you cant argue!

its 18 here too but they are arguing to bring it down to 16. i think thats too young, in never gave a shit about that stuff when i was 16, i had better things on my mind, like getting shagged and stoned!

why not, argueing and being a annoying bitch seems to get more done than voting

I actually spoke on Welsh radio in support of votes at 16, didn't necessarily beleive it but it was the easiest line to take and it gave me a chance to challenge the presenters who said something like "Will it make a difference?".
An interesting point is that many of the arguments against were also used to oppose votes for women.
I voted for the 1st time last year and I actually got to vote for myself, which was awesome.

The reason that voting is dropped is that many people have little faith that their vote means jack shit. That democratically elected officials aren't the ones in control.

Voters need to regain control of the government. Too bad nobody has the balls to really rally the country to stick it to the man.

woah, '90s cynicism overload.

yes but you can only save the world out of love, not hate, because if you truly hate people then you wouldn't mind if the world they lived in died. an pauly bee, that is bullshit. whoever told you that shit was lying to you to convince you to release your actual power for voting power. they convinced you that you are better off voting for someone else then proactively solving the problems of the day. voting is a cop out.

I must admit i got hugely pissed off when I was 16 and could see the idiots that were allowed to vote and I actually knew about the issues had researched most of them and I was the one who couldn't vote. If you can pay tax, you should be able to vote as how your taxes are spent

The problem then is do you only allow 16 year olds who work to vote?

Agreed. People under 18 shouldn't be taxed because they can't represent themselves.

Wow, so simple I never considered it!

That would be difficult, just easier to make it across the board 16. It would be like refusing unemployed people the right to vote. My argument is basically if you are of the age in which you can contribute to the society you should be of the age to vote.

I cant see as it could be anything but a good thing. The only 16 year olds that would vote are the ones that care and understand the election issues the rest wouldnt bother. Anything that motivates younger people into caring about society and feeling as if they can actually change things for the better is a positive step in my opinion.

more of this voting stuff. is that all people ever talk about? is that the only solution? whatever happened to going out and volunteering? doing good for the community...

if you care for the environment, care for it. become active. recycle. consume less. convince everyone else to consume less... but seriously... how the fuck does voting solve that problem? (or any problem?)

(i am not trying to destroy your dreams, but rather enlarge the scope and scale of them. forget voting about something, go actually do something about it.)

You smoke too much ganja. Some of what you said makes complete sense, while other things you said just sound like Bob Marley-ism fanboy shit.

I understand your position and empathise deeply as I have long felt a lack of faith in the system in so far as when neither party seems to be disagreeing (particularly on issues like iraq) it seems impossible to change anything by voting alone. For sure there are plenty of third parties in Britain, the problem is its so ingrained into the public that is a 2 part system, plus many of these parties have nowhere near the funding the 2 major parties do.

What you must remember is that a great deal of what needs to be done about climate change needs to be done at a government level. We all should go and do our bit of course. But I think generally a lot of people feel really helpless about the situation. You recycle, are careful about energy, go out of your way to help the situation and then next door drives up in a new SUV. I think its a general feeling of powerlessness and a lack of answers or real commitment on the part of government that leads to this apathy that we see regarding enviromental issues. The problem is the government responses to this apathy and can only see it as unprofitable politically. It becomes a vicious circle.

California has recycling, trash, and garden waste bins. People use them.

you know there is much more to Rasfatari then Bob Marley, and here is another newsflash, there are more reggae artists then Bob Marley, and some of them are really good. perhaps you can check them out and refer to my posts as Israel Vibration-ism or Abyssinian-ism fanboy shit?!

Do I smoke ganja? Ganja is a bird from Australia, I smoke herb! and maybe you are right, sometimes just a little too much...

no matter what, i NEVER litter. littering is one thing that pisses me off extensively, especially when lazy assholes throw trash on the ground when there's a garbage can ten feet away. would it really kill you to put a gum wrapper in your pocket for ten minutes???

I am not enviromentally conscious, but getting there. This might please Norma J. But yeah, it is not something on my top priorities as big concern. But it is not at the bottom. It is in the middle with all other things. But it is slowly rising. I also think sometimes we cannot do much.

Agreed. One must vote for someone that will help out. It is the lack or apathy that most young people have, that we are in this state. People say the goverment does not work, well you are not voting, voicing your opinions. But I can understand why people feel dejected when their party loses. But yes voting is an important factor in helping change the enviroment.