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truncated 04.12.2006 08:51 PM

Lemonade - fizzy or flat?
 
I'm in the midst of a debate with someone over "ade" beverages (really in the midst, we're arguing this over the phone).

This person, a UK resident, claims that we Americans are misusing the word "lemonade," because "ade" inherently means carbonation in a fruit drink.

I say, he is full of shit. He is British. He eats things called "crumpets," does not find black pudding grotesque, and does not have access to Cherry Pepsi. He has two separate faucets in his bathroom for the hot & cold water. His local colleges have Cadbury's vending machines (I know, I ate myself sick out of one of them once). He drinks Irn Bru. In short, he's just plain fuckin' weird.

So what's the story? Are things like Orangeade and Cherryade brand names, or actual terms for a beverage?

RIPfrey05 04.12.2006 08:53 PM

Limeaids!

Alex's Trip 04.12.2006 08:54 PM

I dislike lemonade. And I don't think that 'ade' means that it carbonated.

atari 2600 04.12.2006 08:57 PM

I always thought "ade" just specified a cool, refreshing beverage that is usually fruit juice-based. At least that's what I know from crossword puzzles.

Just wondering if you gave him the crossword puzzle evidence.

Lemonade is good stuff.

EMMAh 04.12.2006 09:08 PM

I like both of them

Alex's Trip 04.12.2006 09:12 PM

http://www.answers.com/-ade&r=67

Пятхъдесят Шест 04.12.2006 09:14 PM

I just finished off a glass of cherry limeade. Yeah....its great.

Savage Clone 04.12.2006 09:19 PM

I have always assumed it to be non-carbonated.
I also kinda hate carbonation.
But I love Lemonade.

truncated 04.12.2006 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
I always thought "ade" just specified a cool, refreshing beverage that is usually fruit juice-based. At least that's what I know from crossword puzzles.

Just wondering if you gave him the crossword puzzle evidence.


Ooh Atari, good thinking

Eat that!

Пятхъдесят Шест 04.12.2006 09:22 PM

Wouldn't it say on the pakaging?

Kallisti23chaos 04.12.2006 09:26 PM

pink lemonade

noumenal 04.12.2006 10:31 PM

OK, having looked at the OED, here's the deal:

The suffix -ade in this context means "The product of an action, and, by extension, that of any process or raw material; as in arcade, colonnade, masquerade, lemonade, marmalade, pomade. " In other words, lemonade is something made from lemons.

Lemonade is defined as "A drink made of lemon-juice and water, sweetened with sugar." And there is a note that says: "In England now very commonly applied to ‘aerated lemonade’, which consists of water impregnated with carbonic acid with the addition of lemon-juice and sugar."

Пятхъдесят Шест 04.12.2006 10:36 PM

fascinating

atari 2600 04.13.2006 12:14 AM

well, yeah good point Hip Priest, about "-ade" being a suffix properly. Your point completely disproves truncated's British friend's contention. One Brit (you) has it right although noumenal's post sheds light on why truncated's British friend has grown accustomed to drinking aerated lemonade. But "ade" has also become a noun meaning "cool, refreshing drink" & that's what I was thinking of before I suppose.

noumenal 04.13.2006 12:17 AM

Atari, I think you have Hip Priest and me confused, but there are worse people to be confused with...:)

atari 2600 04.13.2006 12:19 AM

oops, sometimes I don't bother to check back when writing posts.
i did mention you also though...

noumenal 04.13.2006 12:21 AM

I'm confused - did Hip Priest post in this thread?

atari 2600 04.13.2006 12:23 AM

haha he didn't post here at all--- i was actually planning to edit that last post haha
i'm stoned & i think i read something good by Hip Priest (
so I had him on the brain
) at some point a few minutes ago & i was trying to find said post & thus did not edit in time in this thread

either that or i was really into the idea of one brit disproving another or something

who knows?

this window is also really minimized right now...

& i'm not even drinking tonight

But this whole misunderstanding gives me a golden opportunity to state that I sincerely wish that people would give me at least a couple of minutes after a post has been made to edit before commenting on any discrepancies or whatever. If there is a mistake, I will almost undoubtedly catch it right after reading it once it's posted. I don't deliberate over my words a great deal. At least at first. I write, then I post. Then, I go back & change things. It's an odd process I suppose.

I really should just be more careful & guarded I guess.

sonicl 04.13.2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
He is British. He eats things called "crumpets," does not find black pudding grotesque, and does not have access to Cherry Pepsi.


We may not have access to Cherry Pepsi, but we do have Pepsi-cino. Yeah, that's right, coffee flavoured Pepsi. WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF STUPID IDEA IS THAT????????

noumenal 04.13.2006 01:14 AM

Hey no prob Atari. I've been caught myself a few times - I'll edit a post and then after I've edited it, I'll notice that someone has already responded to my pre-edit post. It's just so easy to edit stuff on here.


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