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Severian 11.16.2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I am ABSOLUTELY certain that it works like this, which is PRECISELY the part you cut out from my response:

'The bottom line is that the actual election day for the Presidency of the United States takes place four weeks from now, on 14 December 2020."

***

So, there!


When the board of electors meets? To verify votes?
You realize that’s never changed the outcome of an election. It’s changed the outcome of, like, 3-4 individual states’ votes in the EC’s history.

But yeah, sure, of course we don’t acknowledge a president’s victory until a month and a half later. Never been done, cuz that would be madness.
:rolleyes:

Bytor Peltor 11.16.2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Tell you what, I'll do a bet with you. I bet you $50 and a packet of Doritos that absolutely NOTHING will come of this. Deal?



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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
So you're willing to bet on a one month banishment on a bet you know you won't win? If you're that desperate to take leave for a month you don't need me.


Dude, are you going mental?

No one is desperate......it’s a simple wager, take it or leave it!

Or if you can’t stand the possibility of not posting in Non-Sonics for a month, make it one week.

Bytor Peltor 11.16.2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
When the board of electors meets? To verify votes?
You realize that’s never changed the outcome of an election. It’s changed the outcome of the votes for, like, 3-4 individual states’ votes in the EC’s history.


Sev, you’re operating under the assumption that the States will accept and certify the votes. States that violated their own rules will be forced to discard and not count hundreds of thousands of votes. In Pennsylvania alone that will end up being somewhere between 500-600,000 votes. When this happens, I believe Pennsylvania ends up going for Donald Trump......same for Michigan and Nevada!

I’ll explain it later when I have the time.

Robert Schunk 11.16.2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
When the board of electors meets? To verify votes?
You realize that’s never changed the outcome of an election. It’s changed the outcome of the votes for, like, 3-4 individual states’ votes in the EC’s history.

But yeah, sure, of course we don’t acknowledge a president’s victory until a month and a half later. Never been done, cuz that would be madness.
:rolleyes:


NO! It's not when some "board of electors" meets to verify votes. It's when the Electoral College meets to CAST the votes to elect the President of the United States of America, according to the Constitution!

READ THE CONSTITUTION!!!!

!@#$%! 11.16.2020 10:53 AM

 


ladonna del mango...

 

h8kurdt 11.16.2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Sev, you’re operating under the assumption that the States will accept and certify the votes. States that violated their own rules will be forced to discard and not count hundreds of thousands of votes. In Pennsylvania alone that will end up being somewhere between 500-600,000 votes. When this happens, I believe Pennsylvania ends up going for Donald Trump......same for Michigan and Nevada!

I’ll explain it later when I have the time.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ection-results

That Pennsylvania challenge is crumbling by the day. Might wanna change your prediction there. So is the Michigan court cases actually.

like a house of cards

choc e-Claire 11.16.2020 02:55 PM

Imagine spending two weeks having a tantrum about an election result, with no sign of giving up anytime soon. IDK, sounds a bit juvenile.

Skuj 11.16.2020 04:16 PM

Imagine having your head so far into the "Alternative Facts Media" sand that you actually believe what Trump is saying about this election.

That there are a few such people here at Sonic Youth still baffles me.

Trump needs to be in fucking JAIL for what he is doing.

Skuj 11.16.2020 04:52 PM

Just for fun, think about Watergate and the cover-up that brought Nixon down.

Compare Nixon's actions to Trump's monumental lies.

!@#$%! 11.16.2020 05:49 PM

so the trumpistas are pressuring and threatening the georgia secretary of state to taint the election results

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/202...rgia-elections

orange hugo chávez is *the worst*

https://m.facebook.com/GASecretaryofState/posts/

The Soup Nazi 11.16.2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
lmfao you go ahead and do that on your own. the rest of us have somewhere else to be.


This reminds me of a Miles Davis anecdote as told by Mtume:

"When we recorded In Concert: Live At Philharmonic Hall [September 29, 1972], that was the first time I realized the divide that Miles was creating. When we finished that night, all the audience could do was stare. Young people were in awe because they were introduced to a new music that had never been heard before. The old jazz fans of his were confused; some of them were actually angry. After that concert, a critic —I can't remember his name— ran up and said, 'Miles, every move you've made musically, I've been there. But I can't get to where you're at now.' Miles looked at him and he said, 'What the fuck am I supposed to do, muthafuckah, wait for you to get there?'"

The Soup Nazi 11.16.2020 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
 


 

The Soup Nazi 11.16.2020 07:59 PM

 

Savage Clone 11.16.2020 08:06 PM

When a band that performed at Sturgis and has multiple cases and deaths from the virus associated with that show makes fun of you, you’re definitely in trouble. My grandfather always said that if one person tells you you have a tail you can laugh at them but if a bunch of people tell you you have a tail, you a damn well better turn around and look at your ass.

Skuj 11.16.2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj


I think this little tidbit got lost in the tornado. Richard Pilger, former director of the elections crimes branch in the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section, quit because of this. That Fuckwad Barr is once again doing Trump's bidding.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/u...ter-fraud.html

!@#$%! 11.17.2020 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I think this little tidbit got lost in the tornado. Richard Pilger, former director of the elections crimes branch in the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section, quit because of this. That Fuckwad Barr is once again doing Trump's bidding.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/u...ter-fraud.html

still no evidence as it’s clearly bullshit grasping at straws

!@#$%! 11.17.2020 12:02 AM

 

Bytor Peltor 11.17.2020 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
 



If the reports I’m seeing are true, in short order I believe the President will be tweeting about winning the popular vote!

Actual Electoral Votes From The Server Siezed By The Military From Germany:

TRUMP 410
BIDEN 128

Did you know the Smartmatic Dominion election data is stored on servers in Germany?

Sidney Powell told Bartiromo about Peter Neffenger, a retired U.S. Coast Guard vice admiral, chairman of Smartmatic voting systems and member of the transition team Joe Biden put together.

Powell said that presidential transition team will soon be “nonexistent.”

We’re fixing to overturn the results of the election in multiple states and President Trump won not by just hundreds of thousands of votes but by millions of votes that were shifted by this software that was designed expressly for that purpose. We have sworn witness testimony of why the software was designed. It was designed to rig elections. He was fully briefed on it, he saw it happen in other countries, it was exported internationally for profit by the people behind Smartmatic and Dominion. They did this on purpose. It was calculated. They’ve done it before. We have evidence from 2016 in California. We have so much evidence I feel like it’s coming in through a firehose.”

Well Ho Ho Ho, the Chairman of Smartmatic Voting Systems sits on Joe Biden’s transition team......now isn’t that special : )

Oh, the FBI is now investigating the 2020 election!

h8kurdt 11.17.2020 06:07 AM

Taking you up on the bet. Be nice to get some peace and quiet around here for a month after the absolute dirge you've been spamming.

Bytor Peltor 11.17.2020 06:32 AM

It’s a bet!

From the moment one of them are sworn in on January 20, 2021 until the end of the day on February 20, 2021......a gentleman’s agreement to refrain from posting in Non-Sonics.

We are free to continue contributing to Non-Sonic Sounds, Sonic Sharing and Sonic Gossip.

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Taking you up on the bet. Be nice to get some peace and quiet around here for a month after the absolute dirge you've been spamming.


Spamming dirge?

Sidney Powell is an amazing attorney and as she has stated, “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up,”.

“We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose,” Powell said......like a fire hose : )

h8kurdt 11.17.2020 06:37 AM

Lindsey Graham suggested to Georgia's secretary of state to toss out all legal mail-in ballots in certain counties

Seems like this is the bigger news than Trump still moaning.

Robert Schunk 11.17.2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt


Fake news according to Senator Graham.

Per The Guardian:

"Graham confirmed the conversation to reporters on Capitol Hill but said it was “ridiculous” to suggest that he pressured Raffensperger to throw out legally cast absentee ballots. According to Graham, he only wanted to learn more about the process for verifying signatures, because what happens in Georgia “affects the whole nation”.

"“I thought it was a good conversation,” Graham said on Monday after the interview was published. “I’m surprised to hear he characterized it that way.”"

h8kurdt 11.17.2020 08:04 AM

Oh well if the guy being accused of it says it isn't so then it must be true! You like this in the court room?

"I didn't do it."
"Oh well...then...guess that's the end of that one"

'kin Lionel Hutz here

!@#$%! 11.17.2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Taking you up on the bet.


jeezus h christ. you fed the troll. :rolleyes:

h8kurdt 11.17.2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
jeezus h christ. you fed the troll. :rolleyes:


Hey, if it keeps him quiet for a bit I'll feed that troll the finest of food known.

Severian 11.17.2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
NO! It's not when some "board of electors" meets to verify votes. It's when the Electoral College meets to CAST the votes to elect the President of the United States of America, according to the Constitution!

READ THE CONSTITUTION!!!!


Jesus Christ I know what you meant. Everyone knows what you meant. This isn’t new information, and you’re not ahead of the class. The Electoral College meets in December to formally verify EC votes. YES. YES, WE’VE GOT IT.

I mis-typed when I said “board of electors,” and you know that.

Unless you’re an idiot, based on the context of my post, the message should still come in loud and clear:
• The EC meeting has never changed the outcome of an election;
• It’s resulted in the change of a very small handful of individual states (less than 5, perhaps as few as 2, I’m not sure);
• and NOBODY HAS EVER ACTED AS THOUGH U.S. ELECTIONS LAST A MONTH AND A HALF.

The only way you get your way here, is if the Electoral College is corrupt, electors from each crucial swing state won by Biden flip their vote to Trump, and nobody notices and they get away with it. So, basically, election fraud at the highest level.

Pretending the election didn’t go to Biden is just dangerous at this point, you preachy cantankerous fuck.

If you read the constitution, you’d know Trump has violated it several times over.

LOOOOLLOLLOL

!@#$%! 11.17.2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Hey, if it keeps him quiet for a bit I'll feed that troll the finest of food known.

he won’t. but if that’s the goal, i’m willing to up the ante and end this bullshit once and for all.

i propose the following:

if trump gets inaugurated as the next president i’ll leave the board for good. all 4 boards plus the hidden ones.

if someone who is not trump gets inaugurated as the next president, bitey cunts off for life and takes skunky with him also. they can find new homes in 8-chan or something.

yes?

how do you like them apples?

no all-caps begging or anything, no crying for attention, just proposing a clear solution to a tiresome problem if they’re willing.

Bytor Peltor 11.17.2020 02:57 PM

 


Sidney Powell reading from the affidavit: It was "designed in a way that the system could change the vote of each voter without being detected."

Lou Dobbs: “I can confirm the FBI is investigating the 2020 election”








EXCLUSIVE: Former ‘Dominion’ Project Manager Executed $25 Million Contract with State of Michigan While Serving As Dem Vice Chair

_tunic_ 11.17.2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
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Lou Dobbs: “I can confirm the FBI is investigating the 2020 election”

Quote from here:

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but did not specify where the vote tally was influenced, nor did he provide evidence to support his claims.

So if I would claim that I heard from a highly reliable source that symbols has two penises, would I be telling the truth?

!@#$%! 11.17.2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_

So if I would claim that I heard from a highly reliable source that symbols has two penises, would I be telling the truth?

i don’t know what you heard but it’s not 2, it’s just extra-thick and doesn’t mind working overtime :D :D :D

Severian 11.17.2020 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i don’t know what you heard but it’s not 2, it’s just extra-thick and doesn’t mind working overtime :D :D :D



Boom.

Bytor Peltor 11.17.2020 08:14 PM

Michigan's largest county fails to certify election results over absentee ballot concerns

"If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors.”

tw2113 11.17.2020 08:26 PM

Anyone's butthole hurt yet? because everything everyone's doing at the federal level feels like it's fucking over the people.

_tunic_ 11.18.2020 03:10 AM

Trump fires director of Homeland Security agency who had rejected President's election conspiracy theories

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... he knew he might get in trouble for telling the truth ...


tw2113 11.18.2020 10:17 AM

https://cloudup.com/cx8z_Xfmz6n

h8kurdt 11.18.2020 12:28 PM


My jimmies are hella rustled about this one. If you'd told me Stalin did that I'd have believed you.

Robert Schunk 11.18.2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Oh well if the guy being accused of it says it isn't so then it must be true! You like this in the court room?

"I didn't do it."
"Oh well...then...guess that's the end of that one"

'kin Lionel Hutz here


No, I'm not like that in the court room.

I'm like this in the court room:

Per the original interview in the Washington Post:

"In the interview, Raffensperger also said he spoke on Friday to Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who has echoed Trump’s unfounded claims about voting irregularities.

"In their conversation, Graham questioned Raffensperger about the state’s signature-matching law and whether political bias could have prompted poll workers to accept ballots with nonmatching signatures, according to Raffensperger. Graham also asked whether Raffensperger had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of nonmatching signatures, Raffensperger said.

"Raffensperger said he was stunned that Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots. Absent court intervention, Raffensperger doesn’t have the power to do what Graham suggested because counties administer elections in Georgia.

"“It sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road,” Raffensperger said."

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I would first point out, were he testifying in open court, that the statement: "Graham also asked whether Raffensperger had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of nonmatching signatures, Raffensperger said." may constitute hearsay, but I'll be generous and say that Raffensperger made his statement merely as evidence that the statement allegedly made by to Graham was made by Graham (the truth of that allegation being a matter for the trier of fact to determine), and not to prove the truth of the matter asserted, thus taking it out of hearsay territory.

Secondly, Raffensperger's statement: '"Raffensperger said he was stunned that Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots." is altogether objectionable as the witness is drawing a conclusion as to the intended meaning of Graham's alleged statement. That statement is OUT!

Thirdly, I would point out that Raffensperger himself appeared unsure as to his own conclusion drawn from the statement he alleges Graham to have made, by virtue of his wording: "Raffensperger said he was stunned that Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots." So, he wasn't demanding nor requesting, but suggesting?, and, even at that, he only APPEARED to suggest? That's about as conditional an allegation as I've ever seen!

Finally, "“It sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road,” Raffensperger said.". Once again, a conclusory statement (objectionable and excludable), rendered in highly conditional wording.

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Now, on to Senator Graham's response:

"In an interview on Capitol Hill on Monday evening, Graham denied that he had suggested that Raffensperger toss legal ballots, calling that characterization “ridiculous.”

"But he said he did seek out the secretary of state to understand the state’s signature-matching requirements. Graham said he contacted Raffensperger on his own and was not asked to do so by Trump.

"“The main issue for me is: How do you protect the integrity of mail-in voting, and how does signature verification work?” he said."

"“If he feels threatened by that conversation, he’s got a problem,” Graham added. “I actually thought it was a good conversation.”"

In other words, he's denying the very characterizations and conclusions which would be inadmissible in a court of law, and which Raffensperger himself couched in such conditional terms as to cast doubt on his own belief in his own conclusions.

***

Concerning the accuracy or veracity of Raffensperger's allegation of the content of Senator Graham's original statement, I would put the Senator himself on the stand and ask his account of what, precisely, he said during the conversation.

!@#$%! 11.19.2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
No, I'm not like that in the court room.

you should come out of retirement to sub in for rudy giuliani who is going down in flames

Bytor Peltor 11.19.2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
If the reports I’m seeing are true, in short order I believe the President will be tweeting about winning the popular vote!

Actual Electoral Votes From The Server Siezed By The Military From Germany:

TRUMP 410
BIDEN 128

Did you know the Smartmatic Dominion election data is stored on servers in Germany?


Lin Wood tweet
“Good morning.

District Judge has scheduled an emergency hearing this afternoon in the case I filed against @GaSecofState.

In time, these names will also be part of litigation across the country:

Dominion
Scytl
SGO Smartmatic
Clarity

TRUTH IS COMING.

TRUMP STAFFER CLAIMS, THE DOMINION SERVER RAID IN GERMANY WAS REAL!!!

“According to Brian Trascher of of the Trump Recount Committee, “Now that we ave seized the servers for Dominion that were over in Germany… the things that are going to come out are going to shake the globalists to their very core.””

Also, within the past hour I’m seeing reports that the Trump campaign has asked Pennsylvania court to declare Trump winner......hang on : )

h8kurdt 11.19.2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Also, within the past hour I’m seeing reports that the Trump campaign has asked Pennsylvania court to declare Trump winner......hang on : )


And I want a million quid but it ain't gonna happen. Face it they're getting their cases thrown out of court left right and centre.


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