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Skuj 11.08.2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
This four seasons landscaping press conference has to be one of the funniest things this year. Admittedly there hasn't been much to laugh about but my fucking god. If they'd written that in the thick of it you'd have said it was too far-fetched.

 


I had no idea what this was all about, so I just looked it up.

OMFG.

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Giuliani - he led New York in 9/11. He wrote a book on Leadership. I once respected him. Now he is an absolute fucking sad sorry clown.

!@#$%! 11.08.2020 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Maybe not in Graham's lifetime, but I can't say I believe there will never be another republican president ever again

a little trip down memory lane...

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...insults-219374

Skuj 11.08.2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Maybe not in Graham's lifetime, but I can't say I believe there will never be another republican president ever again


Oh, I'm sure there will be in either 2024 or 2028.

If 70+mil voted for Trump, then I believe it.

Skuj 11.08.2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!


It's even funnier when you look up what Graham used to say about Trump.

Isn't Politics wonderful? Graham got re-elected by jumping onto the Trump Train.

tw2113 11.08.2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Oh, I'm sure there will be in either 2024 or 2028.

If 70+mil voted for Trump, then I believe it.



Indeed. Unless they all pass away one way or another between now and then. Hard to say.

Skuj 11.08.2020 08:32 PM

I'm elated that Biden won.

But I'm dumbfounded that Trump, after 4 years of monumental incompetence, was competitive.

America is lost.

The Soup Nazi 11.08.2020 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Minnesota is not a swing state by any measure


Damn right. ONLY state not to fall for Reagan's horseshit in '84.

The Soup Nazi 11.09.2020 12:47 AM

From The Washington Post:

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Thank goodness Trump is too incompetent to properly organize a coup

Opinion by Max Boot
Columnist
November 6, 2020 at 4:25 p.m. GMT-3


I have never been more grateful for President Trump’s incompetence. He can’t even organize a coup d’état properly.

It is not for want of trying. Since April 8, he has been fulminating against mail-in voting — claiming, without a shred of evidence, that it is ripe for fraud. His transparently obvious scheme has been to demand that the largely Democratic mail-in ballots be thrown out so that he could win based on the Election Day totals.

Just hours after the polls closed, Trump falsely claimed that he had won battleground states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan — and with them the election. On Thursday, already far behind in the electoral college, he doubled down: “If you count the legal votes, I easily win. If you count the illegal votes, they can try to steal the election from us.”

Trump’s definition of an “illegal vote,” it is clear, is one that is cast against him. This is the kind of thing you expect to hear from Robert Mugabe, Alexander Lukashenko or Nicolás Maduro — not from the leader of a constitutional republic. No president in our history has mounted such a blatant assault on our democracy.

Trump has, predictably, been joined in his fulminations against the election by his usual MAGA minions. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich demands that federal agents arrest election workers, and former White House aide Sebastian Gorka fulminates that U.S. marshals “need to break down the doors of those polling stations and stop the crimes being committed.”

But, mercifully, that is not happening. More significant than what is being said is what is not being said — or done. So far Attorney General William P. Barr, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, and acting Homeland Security secretary Chad Wolf — the men in control of what, in other countries, are known as the “power ministries” — have not publicly said one word to support Trump’s baseless accusations of fraud and have not made any public moves to save Trump from defeat. Trump might fire some or all of them (a purge is said to be in the works), but it’s doubtful their successors will come to his rescue either.

Nor have the courts intervened despite all of the judges that Trump has appointed. Unable to mobilize a high-powered legal team as George W. Bush did in 2000, Trump is relying on the usual low-wattage loyalists: Rudolph W. Giuliani, Richard Grenell, Pam Bondi, Corey Lewandowski. Their arguments play well on Fox “News” — but, so far, not so well in court. Trump’s Supreme Court appointees are not exactly rushing to sacrifice their reputations on Trump’s altar.

Many of us have spent the past few years decrying the tendency of Trump supporters to live in a world of alternative facts. But ultimately reality bites. The fact that Trump and his cultists cannot point to a single actual case of fraud — much less enough fraud to overturn an election that he is on track to lose by a significant margin — makes it impossible for them to effectively challenge the results. Their theory — that Democrats perpetrated a massive fraud in the presidential race but neglected to fix the results of House or Senate races — is laughably absurd.

This helps to explain why the Republican Party is not enthusiastically rallying to Trump’s side. So far, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) is one of the few GOP leaders shameless enough to claim that Trump has already won. Donald Trump Jr. had to berate 2024 potential GOP hopefuls for not coming to Trump’s defense — which produced dutiful tweets from the likes of Nikki Haley and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.). Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) outrageously suggested that Trump deserves an election do-over. But not even Vice President Pence echoed Trump’s claims of a stolen election. His carefully worded tweet said: “I Stand With President @realDonaldTrump. We must count every LEGAL vote.”

Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, who is close to Trump, actually denounced his baseless accusations — as did the few elected Republicans with any integrity. Others, such as Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), retreated to bromides about counting all of the legal votes. (Who can disagree?) In the cruelest cut of all, the New York Post, which only a few weeks ago had been hyping the pseudo-scandal of Hunter Biden’s laptop, dismissed Trump’s Thursday meltdown with a withering headline: “Downcast Trump makes baseless election fraud claims in White House address.”

The Fox “News” evening hosts may stick with Trump to the bitter end, but it’s pretty clear that Rupert Murdoch — who would not even force Fox’s news division to rescind its call of Arizona for Biden — is not going down with the SS Trumptanic. Neither are Republican leaders. They were happy to use Trump to get what they wanted — judges, tax cuts — and they were (and are) too afraid of his rabid base to challenge him. But having survived the election, they don’t have much use for him anymore. They are probably just as happy not to be asked in the future to respond to his witless tweets.

Harry Truman supposedly said, “If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.” Trump doesn’t have a dog — or a prayer.

_slavo_ 11.09.2020 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_

Who is claiming that the elections are not rigged? Every body else, all over this planet (except for the Slovakian PM)





I beg you pardon? Our PM has never said such a thing.



Maybe you meant Slovenian? (which might make sense, as Melania is from Slovenia)

h8kurdt 11.09.2020 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
I beg you pardon? Our PM has never said such a thing.



Maybe you meant Slovenian? (which might make sense, as Melania is from Slovenia)


Oof, touchier than calling a New Zealander Australian!

choc e-Claire 11.09.2020 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Oof, touchier than calling a New Zealander Australian!

we're all your bastard children anyway m8

h8kurdt 11.09.2020 04:25 AM

And don't forget it, peasant

_slavo_ 11.09.2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Oof, touchier than calling a New Zealander Australian!



haha, yes, we're touchy about this :)


(Slovenia is actually a country way cooler than us, btw, we just don't like ourselves mixed up)

Skuj 11.09.2020 05:14 PM

Nosper!

Skuj 11.09.2020 05:15 PM

(I bet Wray is next.)

!@#$%! 11.09.2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Nosper!


https://www.nosper.com/

huh?

Skuj 11.09.2020 05:44 PM

Esper=Yesper, but now he is fired, so.....

Skuj 11.09.2020 06:00 PM

Barbie came out to spew the party line:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...ess-conference

But Fox cut away!! The Universe has changed!!

!@#$%! 11.09.2020 06:18 PM

oh yeah esper lol

get ready for an utter shitfest all the way into 2021

in fact the worst could still yet come as it becomes clearer he’s got nothing to lose

Skuj 11.09.2020 06:24 PM

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/th...ransition.html

Skuj 11.09.2020 07:35 PM

And now Barr steps in!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/525221-...of-voter-fraud

You know Barr. The same guy who completely twisted The Mueller Report.

Bytor Peltor 11.09.2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Mail-in/Absentee votes for Biden in those states DWARFED margins of other swing states: Ohio, Arizona, Georgia, Minnesota, North Carolina, Florida

Pennsylvania 59.1%
Michigan 37.9%

This is considered a statistical improbability and highly suspicious!



 



Real Clear Politics Now Has Pennsylvania As Undecided:
 



Tom Finton tweet (all 105 pages of lawsuit)
“DEVELOPING: Massive fraud and lawlessness impacting over 2.5 million ballots alleged in Pennsylvania by @RealDonaldTrump campaign in historic "verified" lawsuit.”

BREAKING: Barr authorizes Justice to probe any 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

“Barr wrote that investigations "may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State."”

Savage Clone 11.09.2020 07:59 PM

So you’re telling me that the Democrats rigged the election but let Mitch McConnell win and let the Senate hang in the balance? Also, Joe Biden won the popular vote by a margin more than the combined red state population of North and South Dakota, Wyoming and Idaho. Get over it. Your idiot God lost. This is not even close to even the level of a Bush Gore situation. GIVE UP.
More people voted for that asshole then voted for him in the first time and he still lost. Because he’s an idiot and an asshole. International embarrassment.

Skuj 11.09.2020 08:20 PM

Savage Clone, I assume you are responding to a Magabilly? (I deleted them all.)

This shit will go on until Dec 8th, or maybe Dec 14th, when deadlines occur, and the Electoral College is certified. And then there will be some other shit that occurs, and no real transition will happen.

The GOP will go down in history as the most corrupt/dangerous organization on the face of this planet....partly because of what they have done over the last few years, but mostly because of this shitshow. This is the worst lie, with the most consequences.

Savage Clone 11.09.2020 08:26 PM

You are correct. And I have no faith in the electoral college or in the electors so I really don’t think it’s over just yet. Then it’s not gonna be over for years after it’s supposedly over in any case. We’re in a post fact era. I hate this country and I hate the fact that it’s two countries. I’d love to see the red states survive without being propped up by blue state money. Good luck fighting over the local shit pile without it.

Skuj 11.09.2020 08:38 PM

Yes. We are living in very strange times indeed.

tw2113 11.09.2020 08:52 PM

Sup?

Skuj 11.09.2020 08:52 PM

Gore, 2000: (Those were the days.)

Good evening.

Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States. And I promised him that I wouldn't call him back this time. I offered to meet with him as soon as possible so that we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we've just passed.

Almost a century and a half ago, Senator Stephen Douglas told Abraham Lincoln, who had just defeated him for the presidency, "Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. I'm with you, Mr. President, and God bless you." Well, in that same spirit, I say to President-elect Bush that what remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside, and may God bless his stewardship of this country. Neither he nor I anticipated this long and difficult road. Certainly neither of us wanted it to happen. Yet it came, and now it has ended, resolved, as it must be resolved, through the honored institutions of our democracy.

Over the library of one of our great law schools is inscribed the motto, "Not under man but under God and law." That's the ruling principle of American freedom, the source of our democratic liberties. I've tried to make it my guide throughout this contest, as it has guided America's deliberations of all the complex issues of the past five weeks.

Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession. I also accept my responsibility, which I will discharge unconditionally, to honor the new President-elect and do everything possible to help him bring Americans together in fulfillment of the great vision that our Declaration of Independence defines and that our Constitution affirms and defends.

Let me say how grateful I am to all those who supported me and supported the cause for which we have fought. Tipper and I feel a deep gratitude to Joe and Hadassah Lieberman, who brought passion and high purpose to our partnership and opened new doors, not just for our campaign but for our country.

This has been an extraordinary election. But in one of God's unforeseen paths, this belatedly broken impasse can point us all to a new common ground, for its very closeness can serve to remind us that we are one people with a shared history and a shared destiny. Indeed, that history gives us many examples of contests as hotly debated, as fiercely fought, with their own challenges to the popular will. Other disputes have dragged on for weeks before reaching resolution. And each time, both the victor and the vanquished have accepted the result peacefully and in a spirit of reconciliation.

So let it be with us.

I know that many of my supporters are disappointed. I am too. But our disappointment must be overcome by our love of country.

And I say to our fellow members of the world community, let no one see this contest as a sign of American weakness. The strength of American democracy is shown most clearly through the difficulties it can overcome. Some have expressed concern that the unusual nature of this election might hamper the next president in the conduct of his office. I do not believe it need be so.

President-elect Bush inherits a nation whose citizens will be ready to assist him in the conduct of his large responsibilities. I, personally, will be at his disposal, and I call on all Americans -- I particularly urge all who stood with us -- to unite behind our next president. This is America. Just as we fight hard when the stakes are high, we close ranks and come together when the contest is done. And while there will be time enough to debate our continuing differences, now is the time to recognize that that which unites us is greater than that which divides us. While we yet hold and do not yield our opposing beliefs, there is a higher duty than the one we owe to political party. This is America and we put country before party; we will stand together behind our new president.

As for what I'll do next, I don't know the answer to that one yet. Like many of you, I'm looking forward to spending the holidays with family and old friends. I know I'll spend time in Tennessee and mend some fences, literally and figuratively.

Some have asked whether I have any regrets, and I do have one regret: that I didn't get the chance to stay and fight for the American people over the next four years, especially for those who need burdens lifted and barriers removed, especially for those who feel their voices have not been heard. I heard you. And I will not forget.

I've seen America in this campaign, and I like what I see. It's worth fighting for and that's a fight I'll never stop. As for the battle that ends tonight, I do believe, as my father once said, that "No matter how hard the loss, defeat might serve as well as victory to shape the soul and let the glory out."

So for me this campaign ends as it began: with the love of Tipper and our family; with faith in God and in the country I have been so proud to serve, from Vietnam to the vice presidency; and with gratitude to our truly tireless campaign staff and volunteers, including all those who worked so hard in Florida for the last 36 days.

Now the political struggle is over and we turn again to the unending struggle for the common good of all Americans and for those multitudes around the world who look to us for leadership in the cause of freedom.

In the words of our great hymn, "America, America": "Let us crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea."

And now, my friends, in a phrase I once addressed to others: it's time for me to go.

Thank you, and good night, and God bless America.

Savage Clone 11.09.2020 09:06 PM

I’m sure Trump would just say this is yet more evidence of what a pussy Al Gore is. Right before grabbing him by it.

LifeDistortion 11.10.2020 02:42 AM

The fact that the Republican party leaders are allowing this from Trump is fucking disgraceful. After the decision by the Supreme Court in 2000 some Democrats wanted Al Gore to fight more, and he had options if I remember correctly, but he chose not to prolong the uncertainty anymore. This is even worse, because Trump lost definitely, both the electoral college and the popular vote, and this asshole Mitch is allowing this charade to go on. Trump is doing just what so many said his presidency would do, bring the Republican party down with him.

h8kurdt 11.10.2020 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
So you’re telling me that the Democrats rigged the election but let Mitch McConnell win and let the Senate hang in the balance? Also, Joe Biden won the popular vote by a margin more than the combined red state population of North and South Dakota, Wyoming and Idaho. Get over it. Your idiot God lost. This is not even close to even the level of a Bush Gore situation. GIVE UP.
More people voted for that asshole then voted for him in the first time and he still lost. Because he’s an idiot and an asshole. International embarrassment.


I realised a long time ago that logic is never going to win an argument with a trump drone. Ever.

_slavo_ 11.10.2020 03:33 AM

Anyways, I'm glad we have a person like Bytor here. I'm all pro-democratic liberal minded person, but it's always good to have a discussion.

h8kurdt 11.10.2020 03:35 AM

Aye, I agree. Not one for blocking them because you don't like what they're saying. As maddening as it is.

Bytor Peltor 11.10.2020 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
The fact that the Republican party leaders are allowing this from Trump is fucking disgraceful. After the decision by the Supreme Court in 2000 some Democrats wanted Al Gore to fight more, and he had options if I remember correctly, but he chose not to prolong the uncertainty anymore. This is even worse, because Trump lost definitely, both the electoral college and the popular vote, and this asshole Mitch is allowing this charade to go on. Trump is doing just what so many said his presidency would do, bring the Republican party down with him.


LD, your distortion is completely inaccurate!!!

Regarding Gore 20 years ago, he waited 37 days to reach his decision.

Regarding the electoral college, they have yet to convene so any controversies are considered “live controversies.” This past Friday, President Donald Trump’s legal team went to the Supreme Court seeking an order to:

A) segregate the ballots in Pennsylvania

B) ballots that arrived late were not added to the general totals

After review, Justice Alito issued the order and it has been referred to the entire Court. Justice Alito’s order leaves open the possibility that these later ballots could be excluded from a count. It’s important to remember that the Supreme Court could choose to not take any action.

However, yesterday (Monday, November 9, 2020) Eric Schmitt, Missouri Attorney General along with Nine State Attorneys General File Amicus Brief in Pennsylvania Supreme Court Voting Case

“A coalition of 10 state attorneys general, led by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, today filed an amicus brief in Republican Party of Pennsylvania v. Boockvar, urging the Supreme Court of the United States to grant writs of certiorari and reverse a decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowing mail-in ballots to be received three days after Election Day, even without postmarks.”

“The brief begins with, “The Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s decision overstepped its constitutional responsibility, encroached on the authority of the Pennsylvania legislature, and violated the plain language of the Election Clauses.””

Just to be clear, Justice Alito saw enough to issue the order. Add to that a 10 State coalition seeking writs of certiorari to reverse the decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. The United States Supreme Court isn’t beholding to the Cheeto In Chief, they are beholding to those 10 States because Pennsylvania not following the rules directly impacts the other States.

All 29 Pages Of The Brief That Is Before The Supreme Court Of The United Stated

Robert Schunk 11.10.2020 07:14 AM

"It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data

h8kurdt 11.10.2020 07:36 AM


Cry harder

!@#$%! 11.10.2020 08:35 AM

lol pure bullshit

truth doesn’t matter to putin’s agents: it’s enough to cast sufficient aspersions to delegitimize the next 4 years of american government.

we engage, not in an actual debate with an honest opponent, but in giving credence to their disinformation propaganda.

and so this shit will go on and on and on and on.

meanwhile, we fall further behind, our infrastructure withers, our systems fail, our health worsens, the pandemic rages on, the planet burns, our alliances crumble, and our enemies are left alone to prosper.

indulge them at your own peril.

_tunic_ 11.10.2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
I beg you pardon? Our PM has never said such a thing.



Maybe you meant Slovenian? (which might make sense, as Melania is from Slovenia)

My apologies _slavo_
It was indeed a mixup, and I seem to recall that I even double checked if I had written the right country and then apparently still wrote it wrong.

Bytor Peltor 11.10.2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
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Real Clear Politics Now Has Pennsylvania As Undecided:
 



Tom Finton tweet (all 105 pages of lawsuit)
“DEVELOPING: Massive fraud and lawlessness impacting over 2.5 million ballots alleged in Pennsylvania by @RealDonaldTrump campaign in historic "verified" lawsuit.”

BREAKING: Barr authorizes Justice to probe any 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

“Barr wrote that investigations "may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State."”



I’m always amazed when a post can evoke such responses:

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Get over it. Your idiot God lost. GIVE UP.


Then !@#$%! slides into my reputation with negativity : )
 

!@#$%! 11.10.2020 10:03 AM

i decided to unblock you so my eyes had to see your terrible cartoons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

what did you want for them? a cookie?


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