i'm reading milei's interview with "the economist" and goddamn it's very hard to understand. he says 95% of economists don't understand him. and speaking of expert professionals, i'm no economist, but fuck, i can't even get the syntax and vocabulary. this is not a criticism of him, just a declaration of perplexity on my behalf. i am missing too many of his referents to make sense of anything at all

Well shit too bad Biden disagrees with you. He wasn't interested in ending the war or giving the win to the Ukrainians. His strategy has been to keep the war going.

I don't know what Trump will do. I'm sure he'll keep the war machine money flowing — "big beautiful ships" — but we will see. All I know is how harmful and perverse the current policy has been.

you think the drag has been done on purpose rather than reached from an inability to achieve success while balancing risks? i think it was just a very difficult balance needed to limit risk and get a win, and what we have is this world war I shit where putin has found new footing in the muck instead of sinking and drowning. north korea! goddamn... welll at least we now have clarification of where the lines of oceania/eurasia/eastasia run

question for you since you are closer: what's your take on macron's role in this dance?

Initially, Macron was a mediator. He was going to be portrayed as the solver of this conflict in a documentary. My take is that not him or any other European leader has any real leverage. It's the US that calls the shots.

There's one thing Putin is right about:
"You know, sometimes it looks like European politicians are doing whatever they are told to from overseas. If they are told tomorrow: ‘We have decided to hang you all!’ they will ask only one question, with their eye down in surprise from their boldness: ‘Can we do this with the help of domestically-made ropes?’"

You can hear him speak with Zelenskyy right at the beginning of the war. Notice how certain the Ukrainian president was that it was possible to reach an agreement with Putin.

so in your view the usa aka big satan is guilty of everything?

not saying no, it's more or less how athens ran the delian league hahaha

this post is in my mind again today while we witness the french far right and left wings teaming up to bring down the french government

So what do you americans make of yesterday's rather thrilling incident in new York city? Do you think we can hope for a wave of like minded individuals finding inspiration in this event?

Wtf does this wording actually mean? (And some of you want to shit on the MAGA thread?)

and you want to put maga on a pedestal? so mentally ill xD

SO MENTALLY ILL, SKUJ

i don't know what that would accomplish. police crackdowns?

i mean this isn't a policy proposal, is it? is it an act of revenge? not sure really what it means. when they catch the guy we'll find out and see. right now it's all speculation and wishful thinking from the interwebs

apparently the bullets quoted a book and i went looking for it of course. it's on the internet library but it's not a terrorist book--it was published by penguin! i wanted to read it because of my own experience with insurance (home, not medical). i didnt have time and it wasn't accessible.

https://archive.org/details/delaydenydefendw0000fein

i changed insurance companies a while ago though. went for a mutual instead of a stock company. the incentives are elsewhere

but anyway, one man gets killed, another gets put in his place with an armored car and a security detail. meet the new boss, meaner than the old boss?

what's next in your mind? car bombs in london?

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eta: this seems to be the gun. it jammed a bit during the execution, which is not a good ad for it: https://bt-usa.com/products/station-six-9/

Seriously? Dude?

For the record, Magahead makes his OP. Me (and very few others) join in to oppose. My hope for that thread is that the OP will burn in a stinking pile. Because....well, Donald Trump.

But this is your response to my questions above? Have you lost your fucking mind? Did you actually read that post?

A thoughtful post. Thank you. Please talk to Symbols.

then ABORT STRATEGY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar-Baby

You choose ignore. I choose engage/oppose. Sue me.

Calling me a moron there and MENTALLY ILL (your caps) here is mind-boggling. And I'm starting to wonder if some other person is posting with your handle. I thought I had an inkling of who you are. I was wrong, obviously.

They'll catch this guy soon. They have so much. I bet it will be some other State.

same here! i thought you were smart! and maybe you are, but you are also obsessive to a level that makes you act in extremely stupid ways

the reason im calling you mentally ill is because of your post in the fecal thread. you said he was mentslly ill, younsaid the magas are mentslly ill, okay. but does it occur to you that being obsessed with the magas and abandoning your senses to chase after their shadows is also mentally ill?

i understand maybe your heart is in the right place, don quijote, but the question is: what did you do with your brain? you're a chess player! and *that* is your move? that is precisely the mind boggling thing! nobody wants that thread-- not even you! and yet... you keep refloating that turd? over and over?

you're... you're supposed to be a chess player! and that is your move? that? the fool's mate?!?! while playing both sides of the board? (because it's just you really, fighting a coprolite)

the fool's mate!! nuts!! NUTS

listen, i expect you're going to keep arguing your side. but please don't. really, no argument or justification can undo that blunder

Fucking unbelieveable.

Symbols, this is the last post that I will make in response to you. And that's all I have to say.

Goodbye.

It worked for the IRA, but won't achieve much for US citizens seeking to take action against their opressors.

no, i meant in your proposed war against insurance: do you escalate from bullets to car bombs, and from the usa to the global center of the insurance industry?

im not sure the car bombings worked for the ira, but i'm not an expert in your history. didnt they face horrible backlash for killing civilians? that's what i used to hear bur i really dont know

anyway, armed struggle is no joke. often the cure is worse than the disease, things spiral out of control, everyone suffers for generations...

and here the level of "oppression" when it comes to healthcare is at the level of individual complaints, not a motivator for violent insurrection

but i would argue the frame doesnt work as oppressor vs oppressed anyway. americans can switch very quickly from oppressor to oppressed depending on which side of the transaction they are on. as workers they might have to suffer the boot, but as consumers and investors they are happy to apply it, and greedily demand more for less. more for less always! (or else karen will ask to speak to the manager)

it's not our social class that separates us, but our sides in the transaction. this is why old timey marxism doesn't take root here. it's a middle class country i guess, with a middle class ideology

It's the second best assassination in my lifetime, behind Shinzo Abe.

hahahaaaaaa!

that's very funny. i mean, sorry to abe's family i guess, but that was funny

so what was about abe's killing that made it good for you? wasn't he out of power already? what was the point? (i really never knew, and trying to read about it is even more confusing)

This thread goes from bad to worse. Funny assassinations! Best ones! Laughter all around. What a riot! And then some people have the gall to trash me for responding to a MAGA thread.

"best" assassination not funny to you? assassinations, ranked!

you're not into comedy i guess

gilbert gottfried making 9/11 jokes at the roast of hugh hefner was a legend

yes yes youre not answering me again and you still have your don quixote one track mind which must subsume all subjects to one subject because obsession must obsess

but i'm just leaving this up anyway in general defense of jokes

the kid sure knows how to troll boomers! hahaha. fear the choc e-claire

Abe was a right-wing conservative even by the standards of Japanese politics, fully defensive of war crimes and sex slavery from WWII, actively working towards remilitarising the country and provoking reactions from Korea and China, and connected with the ultra-nationalist and anti-feminist lobby group Nippon Kaigi.
The actual assassination was over Abe's links with the Unification Church, an obsessively anti-communist religious group that's been heavily involved in Japanese politics (half of his last cabinet was connected to it). The assassin's mother had basically fallen victim to cult practices and it had left her family impoverished, so this was basically a grudge killing over a connected target.
Did he deserve to die? Maybe not. But by any measurement it's about the most successful assassination in history - zero suspicion beforehand, nobody else taken out, and it completely worked; the Japanese government (still from Abe's party, who've been in power for almost the entirety of the last seventy years) began to discuss the church's influence more heavily and introduced legislation to restrict the donations they could receive (although it wasn't formally stripped of its religious status). Plus it was just exciting to see it happen.

You are sick. And whatever research you did to obtain all of these conclusions comes from extremely one-sided sources.

This place is worse than twitter/X now.

I absolutely hate Teflon Don with all of my heart and soul. Do I wish him to be assassinated (like he almost was!)? No!! Cheering for and celebrating such things gets us (collectively) nowhere. It's sick.

(Now....if he has a heart attack from all of that KFC, or gets struck by lightning while golfing so much less than Obama did, then.....)

Every time I open this fuckass message board it’s just people being unspeakably shitty to each other in ways I never would have expected when I came here more frequently.

I take a look and go: Fuck this. Because fuck this.

i was aware of his hawkish stance, but japan has been in the submissive role for too long and they have to be able to defend themselves at some point. china is no saint (it's just that nobody is), america is less and less reliable as decades pass and ideologies shift (we're also an occupying power, just everybody got accustomed to it at this point)


i didn't know this one (and still don't know what it is). maybe some day


yes, the moonies, we've had them for ages, they own the washington times newspaper here in dc, and who knows what else. you can "connect" them to a lot of people via donations and editorial policy i suppose


yeah this is the part that i didn't get. wouldn't it be like killing tom cruise because scientology took grandma's savings, or something?


yeah this is the part i didnt get. you sounded like he had it coming for some atrocity where it's more like he was scapegoated for someone else's scams


it think it was "successful" because it was so randomly motivated? totally out of nowhere. plus it yielded nothing?


ah--discussions!

the moonies are still a religion here, they aren't going anywhere

https://www.washingtontimes.com/

exciting in the "wow" sense or exciting int he "yay" sense?

ewwww man wtf hahahahhaaaa wtf

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anyway since you're here can we pick up where we left off last weekend? big satan, etc?

listen, before the thread gets further away i wanted to say sorry for my part in this. i dont want to point fingers at anybody else or say anybody made me do anything, my actions are my own. anyway, sorry for my part in this and i hope you're well

Maybe Murphy will lead us out of this mess:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ategy-rebuild/

Well, he wasn't a very smart criminal, was he?

Baltimore High School Valedictorians Take it to the Top

What do an aspiring biologist, computer scientist, gender/sexuality theorist and engineer have in common?

They all had the highest grade point average in their graduating class.

For four recent graduates of Baltimore-area high schools, achieving the distinction was no simple feat, but all felt driven to push themselves toward it.

[...]

Luigi Mangione, who was valedictorian of Gilman’s graduating class this year, based the speech he delivered at graduation around a similar theme: maintaining tradition while also pioneering innovations.


Gilman Valedictorian Luigi Mangione

Mangione felt that the environment at Gilman fostered his ability to excel academically. “The teachers at Gilman influenced me especially,” he wrote in an email, adding that they encouraged less of a desire to achieve high grades in his classes and instead encouraged “more of an excitement to explore academic topics outside of the classroom.”

Like Sands, his favorite class in high school was biology (though his favorite changed from year to year), and he plans to pursue a dual degree in artificial intelligence at University of Pennsylvania. The track includes a degree in computer science and cognitive science, and though Mangione thinks his path may change, he is sure he will be studying engineering in some capacity.

[...]

https://baltimorefishbowl.com/storie...aledictorians/

The backstory I've gathered is that he had back surgery recently, was left with debt and painkillers, spun out from his family and basically went off the deep end into whatever this was. By no means a principled radical, but based on recent history nobody is anymore.

Ok....ya got me! He was "smart" in certain ways.

(Was Unabomber a math prof?)

But eating at McD's and having an employee call 911? Wearing your murder-gear while lowering your mask to flirt?

Well that was helpful. And "nice".

Whatever his back ground Luigi is an american hero and everyone on the internet wants to fuck him right now

Thank fuck that SYG, warts and all, is the closest thing I get to "social media".

If this guy looked like Mark David Chapman...