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h8kurdt 12.15.2020 09:09 AM

I'll always rep suicidal tendencies. As it is I've got to spread more rep. Swear it says that with every single person on here now.

Severian 12.15.2020 09:12 AM

Bytor’s gone from indignant to upset and it shows.

!@#$%! 12.15.2020 09:37 AM

really waiting for one mere month of his absence next year does not justify all the attention he's been getting with that sorry ploy this week alone. and his stupid little catchphrase.

h8kurdt 12.15.2020 09:57 AM

Tbh, I kinda like the drama they bring. Certainly livens the place up. Or maybe I'm just a sucker for punishment.

!@#$%! 12.15.2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Tbh, I kinda like the drama they bring. Certainly livens the place up. Or maybe I'm just a sucker for punishment.

"livens"? oh shit man, if that is you idea of "life..." well...

good luck bud. you handle that trash. jah bless.

Bytor Peltor 12.15.2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Bytor’s gone from indignant to upset and it shows.


How so, Sev?

Same as Trump thread, please quote and reply.

Thank you!

h8kurdt 12.15.2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
"livens"? oh shit man, if that is you idea of "life..." well...

good luck bud. you handle that trash. jah bless.


Haha! Kisses

Bytor Peltor 12.17.2020 05:15 PM

Moral Cowardliness, if true!

Bytor Peltor 12.17.2020 05:40 PM

Lawsuit to allow the Republican-led Michigan legislature to back the slate of GOP-approved Trump electors is now docketed at THE SUPREME COURT.

The suit contains the revealing audit of Dominion voting machines in Antrim County, Michigan.


 

Bytor Peltor 12.17.2020 05:57 PM

Sidney Powell tweet
The #SupremeCourt electronic filing system shows our EMERGENCY Petitions docketed for #Georgia & #Michigan but SLOW-walking w/ state response not due until JAN 14!
Today it FINALLY submitted our #Arizona & #Wisconsin EMERGENCY petitions filed Friday INEXPLICABLY rejected them

Sidney Powell tweet
They were submitted electronically Saturday morning and all copies hand-delivered and fees paid.
#SupremeCourt clerk refused to give reason and will not return phone calls!!
What is going on??
Unprecedented lack of professionalism


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Lawsuit to allow the Republican-led Michigan legislature to back the slate of GOP-approved Trump electors is now docketed at THE SUPREME COURT.

The suit contains the revealing audit of Dominion voting machines in Antrim County, Michigan.


 


Bytor Peltor 12.17.2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor



OH WOW


Lin Wood tweet

In discussing @realDonaldTrump in phone conversation in 8/19, Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure “the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected.”

Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.


Lin Wood tweet

I have long had questions about “the John Roberts” on Jeffrey Epstein private jet flight logs. I suspected it was our Chief Justice. MSM has shown no interest in investigating issue to find TRUTH.

America is now entitled to know the answer.

Every lie will be revealed.

Pray.

 

Savage Clone 12.17.2020 06:44 PM

I don’t know that motherfucker is a decent adjective. I always thought he was more into his daughter.

tw2113 12.17.2020 08:10 PM

mmmhmmm....mmhmm...mmhmm....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Severian 12.18.2020 09:15 PM

Crazy how Biden won the presidency very clearly and lawfully and that’s an accomplishment Trump cannot claim (I’m sorry I’m sorry)

Severian 12.18.2020 09:16 PM

Oh, and super decisively too. With the biggest turnout ever. And no fraud. Trump could not even steal the election and he tried twice
We have to keep our eyes on the little things you guys, gotta stay positive in this age of uncertainty :)

The Soup Nazi 12.18.2020 10:16 PM

I don't think we have discussed the megahack yet. It deserves its own thread, but given that it (obviously) touched the election campaign, I'll post Zakaria's Washington Post column about it here:

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Russia hasn’t just hacked our computer systems. It’s hacked our minds.

The more we learn about the recent hack into dozens of America’s most critical computer networks — widely attributed to Russia — the more it becomes clear that it is massive, unprecedented and crippling. Tom Bossert, who served as homeland security adviser to President Trump, writes, “It will take years to know for certain which networks the Russians control and which ones they just occupy.” (We do know they successfully penetrated the Department of Homeland Security’s systems as well as those of Treasury, Commerce and others.) Stanford’s Alex Stamos describes it as “one of the most important hacking campaigns in history.” The New York Times’ David E. Sanger, who has written several books on cyberweapons, co-wrote an article calling the breach “among the greatest intelligence failures of modern times.”

Vladimir Putin’s Russia has significantly expanded its hybrid warfare, using new methods to spread chaos among its adversaries. The United States will have to fortify its digital infrastructure and respond more robustly to the Kremlin’s mounting cyberattacks. But what about the perhaps more insidious Russian efforts at disinformation, which have helped to reshape the information environment worldwide?

In 2016, two scholars at Rand Corp. wrote a paper describing Russia’s “firehose of falsehood” propaganda model. Very different from Cold War-era propaganda, current Russian approaches work with prevailing technologies and social media platforms. There are two key features — “high numbers of channels and messages and a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.” There is no effort at consistency or credibility. The report quotes one analyst: “New Russian propaganda entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience.”

Russia’s method closely resembles Trump’s own propaganda strategy. Trump issues a blizzard of messages, using every medium he can find. He is usually untruthful but always entertaining. He never worries about consistency, asking only that you remember his most recent claims. When campaigning in 2016 he argued that the unemployment rate was a hoax, that the Federal Reserve was keeping interest rates dangerously low and that the stock market was a bubble about to burst. Once he entered the White House, he soon said the opposite about all three. If you bombard people in the present, few have time to dwell on the past.

Wittingly or unwittingly, Trump uses the Russian model, which rests on the principle that people get convinced when they hear the same message many times from a variety of sources, no matter how biased. He adds to this an intuitive understanding of how social media works. If you make a claim that is truly outrageous, it will attract attention and eyeballs, spread far and wide, and ensure that people hear it repeatedly — and over time begin to believe it. A boring truth dies on Twitter, while a sensational lie goes viral and (most disturbingly) over time become a half-truth. (I recently experienced this myself. A commentary of mine was edited so that I seemed to be saying close to the opposite of what I actually was, which then ensured that it was widely disseminated.)

Trump has set a new standard because he simply does not view the truth as a constraint. A principled conservative would explain that Republicans do not have a replacement for Obamacare because they don’t believe the federal government should be required to guarantee health care as a right. Trump’s method is easier — he simply asserts that he has a plan, even better than Obamacare. Trump has announced he will veto the defense appropriations bill, apparently because it removes Confederate names from bases and does not repeal Section 230, a rule about social media companies. But he decided it would be simpler to claim that “THE BIGGEST WINNER OF OUR NEW DEFENSE BILL IS CHINA.” There is no conceivable sense in which this is factual — the bill actually would create a formal deterrence initiative against Chinese expansionism. But Trump understands that a sensational lie is far more effective than a complicated truth.

The pandemic might have accelerated these trends toward disinformation. Socially isolated, cut off from most communities, Americans seem even more susceptible to theories that confirm their partisan beliefs. The most startling fact about 2020 is not that Trump tried to overturn the results of the election. Many of us predicted he would try. What is stunning is that, according to the polls, 60 million Americans believe his assertions and the series of lies that sustain them. The problem is not just that Russia has hacked America’s computer systems. It seems to have hacked our minds.

Severian 12.19.2020 10:01 AM

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But Trump understands that a sensational lie is far more effective than a complicated truth.

Maaaan, I felt that.

h8kurdt 12.19.2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
I don't think we have discussed the megahack yet. It deserves its own thread, but given that it (obviously) touched the election campaign, I'll post Zakaria's Washington Post column about it here:


It's another shameless scandal that will be forgotten about in a few weeks with absolutely no repercussions for the Trump clan. Jaded, me? Never.

Skuj 12.19.2020 03:05 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/u...ter-fraud.html

January 20th is an eternity away.

Skuj 12.19.2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
I don't think we have discussed the megahack yet. It deserves its own thread, but given that it (obviously) touched the election campaign, I'll post Zakaria's Washington Post column about it here:


It's worth noting that Apocalypse Fuckface is tweeting about how it might not be Russia, and downplaying it all (of course!), thereby contradicting his own Secretary Of State.


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