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SynthethicalY 06.30.2007 12:11 PM

It's been here for so many years now, and frankly it isn't as stupid, as one I saw near my town, where they could not even smoke in their own balcony. Now that is stupidity. Now stop ytour crying and roll with it.

Pookie 07.02.2007 08:20 AM

Just wanted to report my first visit to a smoke-free railway station. Got to the station yesterday morning, and all my children had to breath in was the smell of overpriced coffee and croissant.

A resounding success so far! No?

sonicl 07.02.2007 08:27 AM

We have a sign on the door of our office now stating that it is illegal to smoke inside - not that anyone ever has in the five or so years that I've been working here. It's just occurred to me that all the tobacco companies will have to have those signs on the doors to their offices too. What a splendid piece of irony.

LatexLove 07.02.2007 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
We have a sign on the door of our office now stating that it is illegal to smoke inside - not that anyone ever has in the five or so years that I've been working here. It's just occurred to me that all the tobacco companies will have to have those signs on the doors to their offices too. What a splendid piece of irony.


Irony indeed sir, oh the irony. What colour is their mind in such a smokeless air?

Florya 07.02.2007 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I just now realized I said "The disappointment is palatable."

I suppose it is, but that's not what I meant to say at all.

Ack.


I think you meant 'palpable'.

Smoking is shit.

sonicl 07.02.2007 08:48 AM

Do vivisectionists still make beagles smoke cigarettes? Will they have to do that outdoors?

sarramkrop 07.02.2007 08:58 AM

I admire people who don't smoke, but I have to say that some of them can be real fascists. Last Saturday I had to take shelter outside the toy shop Hamleys because it was pissing down with rain. Even though I was standing outside and the smoking ban wasn't coming into effect until the next day, one of their staff asked me if I could stop smoking because the smoke was, apparently, 'blowing towards the shop'. Fair enough, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of these days some pro-smoking activist is going to use one of these people as a human ashtray.









 

sonicl 07.02.2007 09:24 AM

People who quit smoking and don't become anti-smoking zealots are admirable. The ones who start lecturing everyone else about what a terrible habit smoking is are nowt but a pain in the arse.

Smokers Gifts 07.02.2007 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
i think i admire more people who quit smoking.
no time to read all replies here, plus think this thread caused me anxiety.
but pls do come back and tell us how the behaviour of people in bars is after a month. are they more chatty in an annoying others way? more nervous or depressed?
and glice, do you have an anti-smoking advertisement on brit telly with a couple (hetero!) on bed and the man just lighting a cig and a note, that it will take long time since he ll manage to make love again? ew to that one.


A friend alerted me to this bizarre clause in the smoking regulations.
2007 No. 765

PUBLIC HEALTH, ENGLAND

The Smoke-free (Exemptions and Vehicles) Regulations 2007

Made 7th March 2007
Coming into force 1st July 2007

The Secretary of State for Health, in exercise of the powers conferred by sections 3, 5 and 79(3) of the Health Act 2006[1] makes the following Regulations, a draft of which was laid before Parliament in accordance with section 79(4) of that Act and approved by a resolution of each House of Parliament:—

PART 2

Exemptions

Performers
6. Where the artistic integrity of a performance makes it appropriate for a person who is taking part in that performance to smoke, the part of the premises in which that person performs is not smoke-free in relation to that person during his performance.

Although I am a non-smoker, I think this law is draconian, just an excericse in further undermining people's civil rights, and would love to see musicians standing up to its stupidity by smoking on stage.
So you can still do that on stage?

Rob Instigator 07.02.2007 09:31 AM

I smoked for ten years, quit for four, started again during my divorce and have quite again for the past 6 months.

I fuking LOVE smoking.

but I love making wild monkey love without getting winded even more.

jon boy 07.02.2007 10:20 AM

has anyone whinged about the smoking ban yet... bloody smoking ban.

Glice 07.02.2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokers Gifts

Performers
6. Where the artistic integrity of a performance makes it appropriate for a person who is taking part in that performance to smoke, the part of the premises in which that person performs is not smoke-free in relation to that person during his performance.



I remember seeing Acid Mothers Gong at the RFH a few years ago and Cotton Casino was smoking in what is a very non-smoking venue, probably to do with said 'artistic integrity'. I suspect that it'll only be a week or so before someone in some band sparks up onstage and there's a furore or some such.

jon boy 07.02.2007 01:19 PM

i cant imagine going to a gig and not smoking during the performance.

Glice 07.02.2007 01:21 PM

Are you saying that you're so hot on stage [etc]

jon boy 07.02.2007 01:34 PM

actually when i think about it i dont actually smoke during performaces i like.

Cardinal Rob 07.02.2007 01:34 PM

Boredoms in October will rule.

mangajunky 07.02.2007 01:42 PM

 

 

Washing Machine 07.02.2007 02:35 PM

Smoking is cool. End of (apart from when your old then it just looks ugly)

I only smoke when im drunk. So this ban really pisses me off. I agree with smoking being banned in most places but Pubs and Clubs should be an exception. It breaks with the whole British dream. You go to the pub to drink, smoke, let your hair down. Not to be a health freak. If you wanna be healthy you are really in the wrong establishment. In a pub you should be able to drink, smoke and indeed as the gentleman above mentioned fart and scratch your ball hair to your heart's content.

Pookie 07.02.2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Washing Machine
It breaks with the whole British dream.


That is the single saddest statement so far written on this board.

Rob Instigator 07.02.2007 03:23 PM

what is "whinged"?

Savage Clone 07.02.2007 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
what is "whinged"?


It's Funny Talk for "whined."

jon boy 07.02.2007 03:32 PM

http://www.silsden.net/yorkshiredialect/dictionary.htm

this is how people speak where i am from. infact some of my relatives i have no clear way of knowing what they are talking about.

pokkeherrie 07.02.2007 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokers Gifts

Performers
6. Where the artistic integrity of a performance makes it appropriate for a person who is taking part in that performance to smoke, the part of the premises in which that person performs is not smoke-free in relation to that person during his performance.



Would that be for play actors playing smokers and the likes or also for bands who are too cool not to smoke on stage?

In holland the new minister for health has also sped up the smoking ban. Originally bars and the likes were given until 2011 to introduce the smoking ban but now it seems that it's already going to happen in july 2008. So after then it's no more smoking in bars, restaurants, festival tents(?), football stadiums with closed roofs(?) and even coffeeshops... although the latter will probably come up with some isolated rooms where you can smoke your marijuana but won't get served.

Prisstina 07.02.2007 05:13 PM

ha. i'm all for the smoking ban, really.

i despise cigarettes. they smell to the high heavens and make my eyes itch and clothes stink. i don't like the idea of risking lung disease from just going out for dinner.

smoke all you want at home but pleeeeeease don't make nonsmokers put up with it.


p.s.- don't care what y'all british folk do but pass this shit in the u.s.

demonrail666 07.02.2007 05:36 PM

Going to a gig is gonna be unbearable. Waiting between bands. Fuck knows how I'll cope at all.

Prisstina 07.02.2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Going to a gig is gonna be unbearable. Waiting between bands. Fuck knows how I'll cope at all.


eat candy!!!!

demonrail666 07.02.2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prisstina
eat candy!!!!


If only it were that easy. Seriously, this ban is gonna mean a lot of people are gonna miss a lot of support bands - and encores.

Which maybe isn't such a bad thing anyway.

But Shellac can definitely go fuck themselves with their 90 minute no-break sets.

Savage Clone 07.02.2007 05:48 PM

I missed a lot of support bands and encores because I couldn't stand the cloying, eye-watering, non-ventilated rooms I was standing in for upwards of four hours in the past.

demonrail666 07.02.2007 05:53 PM

I have to say, when it comes to gigs I'm in favour of a smoking ban - even though it's a pain in the bum for me. Gig goers will never have the choice that drinkers have. The idea of a smoking venue and a non-smoking venue would only work if bands played both - which would never happen.

Pubs are a different issue. I still don't see why, so long as a pub advertises itself as a smoking establishment, they can't continue.

I'll just have to get over it though, I suppose. I'm standing in the way of progress.

Pookie 07.02.2007 05:58 PM

It's mainly for employees. You should be able to work anywhere (including pubs) without having to breath in other people's smoke.

And smoking is just a bad habit. Just stop doing it and you'll be fine.

Toilet & Bowels 07.02.2007 09:25 PM

yeah, smoking isn't even that good, the down sides massively outweigh the one upside, i've been smoking on and off for 11 years, i'm glad the ban is here. people who complain about it are just spoiled brats.

Norma J 07.02.2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
That is the single saddest statement so far written on this board.


HAHA!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.02.2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Because, if you ask me (and if you're not asking me, you're an idiot) it's fucking ridiculous. I, a better person than some twatty prick with a 4x4 and vegetarian shoes and FUCKING DE-CAFFEINATED GREEN FUCKING TEA, am made to stand outside like I'm some kind of lowlife when, in fact, it is those FUCKING vegetarian 'my lungs hurt' fucking cumrags who are taking over this country with their fucking organic hair braids and fucking organic faces who should not only be made to stand outside, but they should be made to exersize vigourously until their measly bodies collapse under the weight of too much fucking organic fucking salad.

A PINT IS BETTER WITH A FAG. SMOKING MAKES YOU COOL AND HARD AND A BETTER PERSON.

Quite what is wrong with this world I don't know, and I'm not going to find out, because I do my best thinking with a tab and some booze in a booze-hole. So, thanks government, I was going to save the world, but now I'm just going to sulk in the corner. Bastards.


your cursing is definitly English.

Washing Machine 07.03.2007 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I have to say, when it comes to gigs I'm in favour of a smoking ban - even though it's a pain in the bum for me. Gig goers will never have the choice that drinkers have. The idea of a smoking venue and a non-smoking venue would only work if bands played both - which would never happen.

Pubs are a different issue. I still don't see why, so long as a pub advertises itself as a smoking establishment, they can't continue.


That was my point really

And the people saying my comment is the single most idiotic thing on the board are clearly taking my posts too seriously. I neither believe smoking is cool or part of the 'british dream'. You cant seriously think I would say something like that straight-faced. Lighten up.

sarramkrop 07.03.2007 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I remember seeing Acid Mothers Gong at the RFH a few years ago and Cotton Casino was smoking in what is a very non-smoking venue, probably to do with said 'artistic integrity'. I suspect that it'll only be a week or so before someone in some band sparks up onstage and there's a furore or some such.


Cotton Casino is credited as smoking cigarettes on their hour-long version of 'Pink Lady Lemonade'.

floatingslowly 07.25.2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel
weird people now work at bars.


threads ending in Diesel always make me laugh.

I have to ask, are you intentionally funny or is this the result of some sort of condition?

is my laughter inappropriate??

LittlePuppetBoy 07.26.2007 02:40 PM

simple solution to those pissed off by the ban: stop smoking, then the ban won't apply to you. Plus, you'll have lots of extra money to spend.

tesla69 07.26.2007 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
It's mainly for employees. You should be able to work anywhere (including pubs) without having to breath in other people's smoke.
.


I have to breathe traffic fumes, so traffic should be banned.

I'm against the loss of liberty - we've been dealing with this in NYC for several years now. If they can get away with banning smokes in bars, they can get away with requiring a total surveillance city - which is what they are doing. I honestly don't miss not smelling like smoke after coming home from a gig. But now the pols are trying to ban smoking in autos, in parks, on streets, and even in your home. Its just about making a nice healthy crop of meat for the machines.

Glice 07.27.2007 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
bars smell funny. i don't like it. smoking on the street sucks. weird people now work at bars. fuck this shit godamn it dMN THIS fucking government shit i need smoke in my fucking face


There's a few bars that smell like utter shite now. Not all of them. I can't understand how these non-smoking cunts can abide it, it's fucking awful. I shouldn't, by rights, have any olfactory senses any more, let alone having them affronted by the new stench of food and sweat.

jon boy 07.27.2007 01:07 PM

its true that place snoe do smell of sweat and human bodies more. away with you smoking ban away with you.


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