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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

just because democrats are terrible communicators who can't properly tout their achievements it doesn't mean the industrial policy is not there.

Which is why it's even more infuriating that the best communicator in the party since AOC, Tim Ryan, lost to an absolute douche like Vance. Fuck the former swing state known as OH.

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Originally Posted by _tunic_

Linda Paulsen should be your next President!!

Vote Linda!!

"The outcome of this election has not been called yet." Fuuuck me...

mark kelly just won arizona

what, no, he won last night lolol

great!

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nevada still a tossup

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

mark kelly just won arizona

what, no, he won last night lolol

great!

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nevada still a tossup

Graham can cry all he wants, but the Senate is already blue. Fuck you, Lindsey! :fuckyou::D

The problem is the damn House:

- 21 races still 2 legit 2 quit ER I MEAN too close to call.
- Republicans lead in 10 of them. They need only 7 more victories.
- Goddamn those people in California take their sweet time counting votes.
- Fuck.

aaaaand cortez masto just won nevada hahahaha

democrats keep the senate with kamala as tiebreaker. here's to warnock winning next month and locking georgia.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

here's to warnock winning next month and locking georgia.

Not to mention diminishing Manchin's power. Pretty sweet. The only reason I'm not 100% happy about the Senate results is that two more senators would have canceled the Sinema Show as well, which is why I'm still pissed about shitty Ohio. But hey, I'll take it. :)

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

sounds like the demonrats (lol) have managed to partially stem the bleeding. good!

the maga promotion strategy was playing with fire/flirting with disaster, but i'm glad someone in the democratic party had both the balls & brains to go with it, because repukes are corrupted to the core and will enable trumpians shamelessly. just look at how they crucified darth cheney's spawn. so this was very good judo. nevertherless, borderline or deeply irresponsible depending on how you look at it. i have no opinion.

anyway the reason i did not go hysterical through all of this fucked ordeal was that because unlike outside observers commenting on another country i have to live through this shit and can't afford to be a *gynormous* pussy about it.

we have dodged half a bullet. the other half is still flying. we're on the same side, but please quit it with the fucking tears, it's not just embarrassing but actually demoralizing, and if these were trenches you'd be shot for it.

Um....were you talking to me?

Anyway....wow!! A red ripple. Who would have thunked?

And Trump....finally!! This is the turning point that I've been waiting for years for, right? He can't come back from this like he did after Jan 6th, can he? He is officially a steaming pile of dogshit now, right? (And I don't care what he announces on Tuesday.)

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Um....were you talking to me?

hahahah

not exactly

there's just this general tendency in this thread for people to lose their shit at the first sign of trouble (or second, or third, or thousandth).

i mean, for some of us, it's like being inside a building on fire trying to figure out how to put out the fire or how to escape alive, while people looking from outside the window are screaming in panic that we're gonna die horribly and how can this fire be. but we who are inside have to keep a cool fucking head and do the right thing in the meantime.

but you know what, we've survived this one, so i don't give a damn about all the negative emoting or terror at this point hahahahaaa. if people wanna scream their heads off at this point fine by me, i won't be bothered.

anyway we're safe--for now. i gotta rest and get ready for the next one. it's been a really rough fucking year of negative expectations and i need a little celebration of a disaster averted.

From The Washington Post. (Spoiler alert: a Wire reference! :cool:)

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Opinion | Republicans lost the election — and so did Putin, MBS and Netanyahu

By Max Boot
Columnist

Democrats just had one of the strongest showings in the past century for a president’s party in midterm elections, while many of the candidates endorsed by former president Donald Trump lost. Those results are not only shaking up domestic politics — they will also reverberate abroad. Dictators and right-wing populists who were hoping that Trump would return to power are sure to be disappointed, while the United States’ democratic allies can breathe a little easier.

Both Kyiv and Moscow were watching the election results closely. Ukrainians were apprehensive that if Republicans won power, U.S. aid to their country would be cut off. That’s a legitimate concern, given that Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who may be the next House speaker, said that Ukraine would no longer have a “blank check.”

In fact, given the Russian army’s dismal combat performance, a U.S. aid cutoff is Vladimir Putin’s best bet to win the war. That helps to explain why the Kremlin once again activated its trolls and bots before Election Day to help the MAGA movement. Russian propagandists even said that Putin avoided announcing the Russian withdrawal from Kherson until the day after the vote so as not to give a lift to Biden and Democrats. Democrats still did well — and Russia did badly.

Another country that might have benefited from a Democratic defeat is China. That’s not because Republicans are pro-China; while there is a lot of sympathy for Putin in MAGA world, there is none for Xi Jinping. But as the United States’ foremost geostrategic challenger, China benefits from a weak president and a divided America.

Xi just won another five years in power from the Chinese Communist Party conference. He would be in a stronger position meeting Biden on Monday, at the Group of 20 summit in Bali, if the U.S. president had just suffered repudiation at the polls. While Biden hasn’t had his term extended, he has been given a new lease on life: He won’t be a lame duck for the next two years. That enables him to parley with Xi from a position of greater strength — all the more so since inflation slowed in October, suggesting that the U.S. economy may avoid a recession.

The election was also being closely watched in the Middle East, where many of the United States’ illiberal allies have been pining for the days when Trump gave them a pass on their atrocious human rights records. I recently talked with a reporter from an Arab country who told me that her government is locking up more journalists while ignoring protests from the State Department because its rulers are counting on Trump to come back in two years. That seems less likely now, which adds to the pressure on Arab states to listen more carefully to what the Biden administration is telling them.

A test case will be in Egypt, where the administration is doing “everything we can” (in the words of national security adviser Jake Sullivan) to secure the release of British Egyptian political prisoner Alaa Abdel Fattah, who is on a hunger strike in an Egyptian prison. Biden just met with Egyptian ruler Abdel Fatah El-Sisi at the climate summit in Sharm el-Sheikh. Sisi may still not do the right thing, but he at least has more incentive to listen to what the U.S. president says now than he might have had a week ago.

Another Middle Eastern regime that has been giving Biden the middle finger is Saudi Arabia. In July, Biden traveled to the kingdom to meet with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman despite his role in ordering the murder of Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi. Biden hoped to win agreement from Saudi Arabia to maintain high oil production to moderate inflationary pressure since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

MBS, as he’s widely known, refused to oblige in what was widely seen as an attempt to hurt Biden politically and usher in the return of his MAGA friends. The Wall Street Journal reported that MBS “mocks President Biden in private … has told advisers he hasn’t been impressed with Mr. Biden since his days as vice president, and much preferred former President Donald Trump.”

Well, as Omar Little said in “The Wire,” “You come at the king, you best not miss.” MBS missed — and now he will have to deal with an empowered Biden.

Benjamin Netanyahu, who is returning as Israel’s prime minister, is yet another Middle Eastern leader who preferred Trump to Biden. Now he will have to listen more carefully when Biden tells him not to annex parts of the West Bank as demanded by the right-wing members of his coalition.

I don’t want to exaggerate the impact of the election. The United States remains divided politically, and Republicans may still take over the House. But the unexpectedly strong showing by Democrats leaves Biden in a stronger position not only at home but also abroad. U.S. democracy looks healthier today than it did a week ago — to the delight of fellow democracies and the dismay of dictatorships.

wheeeeeeee! kari f. lake eats shit tonight! (f. stands for fucking)

arizona dodged a lying fascist maga bullet. massive relief!

many thanks to all the kids who voted and saved us all

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

wheeeeeeee! kari f. lake eats shit tonight! (f. stands for fucking)

arizona dodged a lying fascist maga bullet

NOICE. Another spit on 45's face! So AZ is cool now? :D

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

NOICE. Another spit on 45's face! So AZ is cool now? :D

that there pictured are the asu kids who lined up to vote in spite of delays hahahhaaaa

thanks, kids! the kids saved us.

https://www.statepress.com/article/2...n-asu-midterms

How fucking stupid is the Russian military. Now NATO cannot not respond, even if it's by proxy, which they've already been doing all year, but twice as hard.

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Originally Posted by Skuj

And Trump....finally!! This is the turning point that I've been waiting for years for, right? He can't come back from this like he did after Jan 6th, can he? He is officially a steaming pile of dogshit now, right? (And I don't care what he announces on Tuesday.)

Doucheturd just announced his big

. Do NOT count him out like in 2016.

M'kay, so while the numerous worldwide shitshows happen, why don't we play Political Compass? Take the test! Get your personalized certificate! But before you do any of that, I strongly recommend you read about the site/watch their video and take a look at their articles, so you'll know who's gonna be analyzing your choices, you follow. It's all here:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Fun times!

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Do NOT count him out like in 2016.

It Begins Again