this has always been one of my favourites and watched it yesterday. derek jarman did a lot of the sets and art direction which is also a plus.

Yeah, I've gone to see the play every year for the past 20 or so years. And I've read the book, and seen countless film versions. So I really know the story (and dialogue) well. And yet, I loved this version of it. Fantastic.

He did a great job. Though I could tell his voice in the Ghost of Christmas Present. Not the others. But his face was very obvious in the Ghost of Christmas Past.

Anyway, highly recommended, especially if you can see in in 3D.

I basically forced myself to finish it on the grounds that it's a film I kind of need to have a legitimately formed opinion on, but that was pretty much my gut reaction, and I ended up wishing I'd gone with it...

The original Robocop is outstanding, it's a shame that the sequels are such piss.

I finally got a chance to see it, and man, oh man, was it a blast! I had such high hopes going into this, and was not let down in any way. I can't believe I've let Henenlotter's wor escape me for so long. This, and Frankenhooker, had been on my list of "flicks to see" far longer than they should've been.

How do the sequels hold up to the original?

Well, the original is the best, but anything by Frank H is gold. If you haven't seen Brain Damage or Frankenhooker yet, see those next. Seriously. Both completely brilliant.

All Henenlotter rules, Brain Damage is the best though.

co-sign. Almer is the shit.

school for scoundrels and the breakfast club. both good imo.

I'm now anticipating the Avatar movie by James Cameron

AMAZING! Review here.

Resnais, Night + Fog. Not sure if it counts as a "movie". Fucking unforgettable.

I'm not.

Aliens was good, but I gave up on him ever since Titanic - the most over-rated film ever.

James Cameron is still directing films?

*edit* Just looked up this trailer, looks terrible. God, cinema is awful nowadays. The only interesting looking mainstream film to come out all year, BAD LIEUTENANT: PORT OF CALL NEW ORLEANS, didn't play in any local theaters because they had to make room for 4 screenings of whatever the fuck Twilight is.

The sad thing is, he's supposedly been working on this 'Avatar' garbage for over a decade.

*sigh*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeV-DI09Q3w

As someone who goes completely gaga for Herzog, and has for years been that one guy in the room who counters mocking of Nicholas Cage with cries of "but he used to be fantastic!", Bad Lieutenant looks amazing! So psyched to see it. That and A Serious Man are basically all I'm anticipating.

Kind of like a finnish Mad Max with HEAWY MEDAL MUSIK YEAH

I hope you're being sarcastic.

...?

Your taste in movies genuinely sucks?! :eek:

james cameron is a horrible shithead blowhard of a filmmaker

perhaps in his personal life he's a cool motherfucker, and no doubt he commands a lot of industry power, but i'm afraid it's all wasted in the making of mass-pleasing turds. he's to directors what jerry fucking bruckheimer is to producers.

the new bad lieutenant is a werner herzog movie-- i don't know if he's ever made a film turd-- ok, that stupid movie in the desert is a bit dull if you are not in the right mindset, with the popol vuh text, but it's pretty low key he didn't waste a bazillion dollars in it.

i thought james cameron must have done some good stuff, but i looked him up on imdb and it appears to be 100% shit

Werner Herzog is clearly popular with the clique of contrived cineastes who go for all that arty farty, existential crap. Thank God for the likes of James Cameron.

Yeah, are you implying that liking Werner Herzog implies terrible taste? Because if so, what the fuck? I mean I would generally say that being into Herzog is one of the best tests there is for seeing at a glance if someone has GOOD taste in movies...

EDIT: When I wrote this, Keeping It Simple had not posted a reply.

What Herzog films have you actually taken the time to watch carfully all the way through?

Yeah. Does people having opposite views spook you?

no, no, i fucking love herzog-- maybe not that desert movie though-- FATA MORGANA-- yeah. i mean it has beautiful shots but i inevitably sleep.

that's what i was saying (in a way), that adam's reply wasn't sarcasm (loving bad lieutenant and hating cameron)-- it's perfectly right to do that.

james cameron is a fucking turd. his best work was probably the screenplay to strange days, which he didn't direct and it's not 100% bad thanks mostly to juliette lewis.

When you read "Herzog's films have received considerable critical acclaim and achieved popularity on the art house circuit", you know what to expect when you see a movie of his.

if he had directed strange days it would have sucked far more than it did.

Cameron can write a good flick

Rambo, terminator, aliens, terminator 2, true lies, strange days,

"The Terminator", "Aliens", "Terminator 2: Judgment Day", "True Lies" and "Titanic" are shit? Get real, pseud.

the first terminator is a good b movie. lots of chases. bleep bleep bleep. run run run. i see you with my laser eye.

terminator 2-- blegh. all special effects and no substance.

aliens - a spectacle of explosions and crapola and a terrible sequel to the original riddley scott's alien which was a great little movie when it came out

true lies-- a total piece of shit promoting cartoonish american suburban lifestyles and painting a-rabs as the stereotypical villains. pathetic.

titanic -- kate winslet is hot, i adore her-- let the other fuckers die

It must bruise your bloated ego knowing nobody else agrees with you.

aside from the cocksmear that played the kid, terminator 2 is a fucking GREAT movie. it deals with so much more than the first one which was a great cyberpunk thriller.

aliens is one of the very few sequels that equals or even outdoes the original.

true lies is what Bond would be if he were american. I thought it was very witty and funny and is the first movie to actually show what a Harrier jump jet really does.


titanic was a movie for old women. it seemd like his attempt to make a grand film like gone with the wind and shit, but I wanted to see kate winslet's full thick bush.

I'm not even going to get into a debate about my "tastes". All I know is, Herzog is a real director. As in, not pretentious, takes chances, puts himself on the line for his art.. I don't enjoy everything he's done, granted, but Fata Morgana, Aguirre, and Heart of Glass alone blow away almost every other movie I have ever seen. One of the best directors of all time. Cameron is interesting, because he's actually quite a good director, see Aliens and the first Terminator, two jaw-dropping films that I hold dear to my heart. Still, he hasn't made anything I enjoy watching since Terminator 2 (granted he hasn't exactly made that many movies, PERIOD)... but, yeah, Avatar looks... like something that wouldn't appeal to me.

I re-watched Squid and the Whale. 8/10. don't you remember the last line of Godard's "A Bout De Souffle"? Belmondo calls Seberg a bitch. "Degolas." We saw it at the Thalia with the Dicksteins. I got you in for the children's price. You were pregnant with Walt.

As far as movies (not mainstream) that came out this year that I enjoyed... Thirst, Esoterica, Singularity Session, The Check Out, The Hanging Garden, K-Corea Inc, Sibling Topics, Malika S'est Envolee were all cool. I forgot that I saw Zombieland and liked it, though it wasn't exactly anything groundbreaking.

Oh, watched this too, almost forgot..



HARDCORE (what a great poster) - 6/10

I dig Paul Schrader but this movie was just missing something. Good writing and a great atmosphere but it just didn't do much. I dunno.

seriously? this might be the most ignorant thing written on this board. herzog's movies are extremely intelligent poetic films which almost deal with anti philosophy rather than coming out with a straight ahead point (this regarding your existential remark)
what i would expect from that quote is a wes anderson type movie, so obiously we do not "know what to expect"
i hope that you were joking, that is why i gave you the benefit of the doubt and didnt neg rep you.

and in honor of herzog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5D-VQMJ6jw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7hGx...eature=related
nothing beats herzogs static shots of nature with baroque music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4llQd...eature=related
and another brilliant scene of nature accompanied by some of the finest music ever written
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkAI9kALWss

now im going back to watching the bergman movie that i was watching

You've opened a can of worms by saying Herzog is a "real" director.

Yeah, wouldn't wanna get "neg repped" by a Herzog fanboy. :rolleyes:

you're crazy projectin', i don't give a shit. matter of fact i like rob lots though we often disagree on a lot of things, atsonicpark same thing (he likes fata morgana, i fall asleep to it, he also likes gory shit i dislike).

you're the one bringing on the twattery by making ad-hominems against people who disagree with you instead of arguing your point. but if you must know, no, my ego doesn't get bruised when people disagree with me-- it grows even more fabulous in the realization of its rarity and exquisiteness--- haa ha ha haa. (that was a joke-- just in case you didn't get it).

but seriously, why are you so in need of other people's agreement? the fun of discussion is to see other people's points of view and making yours. don't get butthurt just cuz i hate your idol's work. you should thank me for showing you a perception of the universe that's never occurred to you-- that james cameron is indeed a hammy fuck with a lot of money.

i gotta go do some food shopping so i'll reply later if you retort here.