casablanca is not and never was a cult film
that mofucker won THREE academy awards for chrissakes.


cult films are ones that garnered support and love from people way after they were released and dropped from tgheaters.

prime example is rocky horror

Would Frankenweenie count?

Casablanca reached the full flowering of its culthood only in the 1960s whenHarvard students regularly attended Humphrey Bogart film festivals during finals week. [5] More than a decade before TheRocky Horror Picture Show, Casablanca initiates would shout "The Germans wore gray; you wore blue" and " Is that cannonfire, or is it my heart pounding?" along with the projected images of Rick (Bogart) and Ilsa (Ingrid Bergman).

James C. Robertson. New York: Routledge, 1995. 202 pp.

anything that won oscars the year of it's release is not a cult fave EVER
no matter if people started treating it like one

you're just making the rules up as you go along now, aren't you?:D

Atsonicpark must have a big head.

Is that good or bad?

depends if you expect us to keep you in hats

My all time favorite cult/b-movie (by the purest definition of the words) is DEFINITELY monster high:



This movie is insane. Rapping aliens, hot chicks, a weird scene where people open a mysterious door and a red strobe light goes off while blood is randomly splattered like ketchup and a fat girl sits on a cheesecake (?!), and the entire movie is about a basketball game to save the world. Oh, and there's a life size killer marijuana plant.

Movies are my life.

There have seriously been points in my life where I was going to kill myself but I decided to "wait" until I saw the new Kitano movie or something. That's kinda sad but eh. They make me happy!

For fun, here's my top 10 troma flicks:

1. combat shock
2. touch me in the morning
3. bloodsucking freaks
4. fatty drives the bus
5. class of nuke 'em high
6. sucker: the vampire
7. surf nazis must die
8. period piece
9. unspeakable
10. nightmare weekend

didn't woody allen say something quite similar in one of his movies? about wanting to kill himself but at the same wanting to see how some marx brothers movie ended first, and inevitably feeling cheered up as a result.

Oh, and thanks to this thread, I pulled out the Kenneth Anger collection for the first time in years and watched every single short film on there.

Truly brilliant. I never noticed the scene in Lucifer Rising where the elephant foot steps on a snake.

That's definitely the best thing Troma have been involved with. Ironically, I think it's the only one on your list (besides Bloodsucking Freaks) that they weren't actually responsible for making. They only distributed it, despite now trying to take full credit for it by putting it in various Troma box sets. The actual film was made by 2000AD films.

Actually, they weren't responsible for any of them in my list, except nuke'em high. I don't really like Lloyd's films (which pains me to say, as I love Lloyd as a person). However, in the case of Combat Shock, they took the film American Nightmare (the original title), and they had the director add the Viet Nam footage at the beginning. So, in a way, they actually had something to do with it, since that opening constitutes a good 7 minutes of the film.

Something weird I've noticed about Combat Shock is the weird one-note synth music at the beginning and near the end of the film is the exact same timbre (and possibly the same note being played) as a track on the Manhunter soundtrack. I wonder what kind of synth that was, I really like that sound.

I really love the scene in Combat Shock, near the end, where Viet Nam stock footage is played over the main character's face through a projector. The director of the film said he didn't like that part of the film...?!

Also, I LOVE the whole waiting-in-line scene. Some people say it goes on too long, but it's awesome. The music is a bit odd, though, haha. But it has one of my all time favorite lines in any movie when he actually goes in the unemployment office (note the Frank Zappa on a toilet picture on the wall): "Life is difficult. And since it is difficult, I'm going to take off my jacket." *unemployment office man slowly gets up, slowly takes his jacket off, neatly folds it and sets it down, and then sits back down*

Brilliant.

combat shock would make an incredible double bill with william lustig's maniac.

and my mistake, you're quite right about the majority of films on your list not being made by kaufman

Fuck yeah. Maniac is my favorite "slasher" film of all time. In fact, it was the first movie I ever bought with my own money, when I was 14!

this thread fails at Big Trouble in Little China.
yes, it counts, you bastards. yes, it counts.

Is Big Trouble really a "cult" film? Big director, big star.. it didn't make much money, but it's fairly well known. Then again, I did list Evil Dead 2, so nevermind.

Also, something I'd like to mention about my list, a lot of those ARE legitimate cult films, but some of them are well-known/well-loved in their original countries of origin, just not here.

did i hear someone mention big star?!?!

Kurt Russel is huge!

Ah, I just realized I put Used Cars in my list.

Big Trouble's definitely a cult film if Used Cars is.

Carry on..

A film doesn't need to have a low budget, or no major stars or be initially unsuccessful in order to become a cult. All a cult film is is one that's developed a special relationship with its audience, where they start quoting lines to one another, re-enacting key scenes among themselves, stuff like that. In that sense, probably the greatest cult movie of all time is Star Wars.

Currently:

L.I.E. and The Warriors