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acousticrock87 05.31.2006 06:19 PM

He was good on SNL.

Hip Priest 05.31.2006 06:41 PM

In my opinion, the perfect pop lp is 'A Secret Wish', by Peopaganda:

 


And from it came the perfect (two-headed) pop single, 'Duel'/b-side 'Jewel' (this is the 12", as that's what I have):

 


PROPAGANDA
BIOGRAPHY
This Düsseldorf quartet comprised of vocalist Claudia Brucken, percussionist Michael Mertens, and keyboardists Susanne Freytag and Ralf Dorper. Moving to the UK in 1983, they were quickly signed by Trevor Horn to his fledgling ZTT label, and their first single appeared in February 1984. Dr. Mabuse gave these subversive popsters a UK top thirty hit, staying on the chart for an impressive nine weeks. It was more than a year before Propaganda released a follow up, but when Dual was finally issued in May 1985 it climbed to number twenty one.

Shortly thereafter, the group’s debut album A Secret Wish appeared, and a UK tour was arranged to promote it. With the addition of former Simple Minds rhythm section Derek Forbes (bass) and Brian McGee (drums), Propaganda were able to take their glacial pop to the people. The album itself was a twisted, Teutonic masterpiece, belonging to a lineage that can be traced back to David Bowie’s hugely influential foray into Germanic sub-culture, Low. By the ‘80s, Bowie had moved into new territory, but his creations bastard offspring were flourishing in British pop, as evidenced in the work of Eurythmics (Sweet Dreams), Simple Minds (New Gold Dream), Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark (Architecture And Morality), Human League (Dare), and even the limp pop posturing of Duran Duran. Propaganda were several leagues ahead of their contemporaries, fashioning a cold yet beautiful work that was crafted by first generation Germans, and polished by Trevor Horn’s spirit of the age production.

Towards the end of 1985, ZTT released the remix album, Wishful Thinking. Don’t for one moment think that this was a cut’n’paste job akin to the type of slipshod exploitation proffered by today's young bucks. Rather, it was a genuine artistic venture, aimed at reshaping and remodelling Propagandas visionary work, with the group aided by Paul Morley and Bob Kraushaar.

Unfortunately, that was pretty much it...


Sorry for the rather large post, but I have to say that their brief but joyous and intelligent existence was pop perfection.

Toilet & Bowels 05.31.2006 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Duran Duran


you people better like fucking duran duran, seeing as that's what rather ripped fucking sounds like.


i don't have mtv and i don't listen to normal radio stations so i don't know anything about new pop music anymore, i liked that tune by amerie did last year, and there's a song that i think is by kylie minogue and i think is called slow, but i'm not sure. missy elliot can be relied upon to be good too.

thewall91 05.31.2006 07:23 PM

i don't know whether daryll hall and john oates are considered pop or adult contemporary, but i do know THEY RULE!!!
 

atari 2600 05.31.2006 10:09 PM

Yeah Hall & Oates...most of it was good except for that Big Bam Boom garbage, but they redeemed themselves in the end with the Motown homages.

& INXS were good...The Swing & Shabooh Shabah are pretty great
Listen Like Thieves & Kick are pretty good

Live & Bush = puke

Everyneurotic 05.31.2006 10:12 PM

inxs?! you mean generic watered down white boy funk/new wave?

porkmarras 06.01.2006 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip Priest
In my opinion, the perfect pop lp is 'A Secret Wish', by Peopaganda:



 


And from it came the perfect (two-headed) pop single, 'Duel'/b-side 'Jewel' (this is the 12", as that's what I have):



 


PROPAGANDA
BIOGRAPHY
This Düsseldorf quartet comprised of vocalist Claudia Brucken, percussionist Michael Mertens, and keyboardists Susanne Freytag and Ralf Dorper. Moving to the UK in 1983, they were quickly signed by Trevor Horn to his fledgling ZTT label, and their first single appeared in February 1984. Dr. Mabuse gave these subversive popsters a UK top thirty hit, staying on the chart for an impressive nine weeks. It was more than a year before Propaganda released a follow up, but when Dual was finally issued in May 1985 it climbed to number twenty one.

Shortly thereafter, the group’s debut album A Secret Wish appeared, and a UK tour was arranged to promote it. With the addition of former Simple Minds rhythm section Derek Forbes (bass) and Brian McGee (drums), Propaganda were able to take their glacial pop to the people. The album itself was a twisted, Teutonic masterpiece, belonging to a lineage that can be traced back to David Bowie’s hugely influential foray into Germanic sub-culture, Low. By the ‘80s, Bowie had moved into new territory, but his creations bastard offspring were flourishing in British pop, as evidenced in the work of Eurythmics (Sweet Dreams), Simple Minds (New Gold Dream), Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark (Architecture And Morality), Human League (Dare), and even the limp pop posturing of Duran Duran. Propaganda were several leagues ahead of their contemporaries, fashioning a cold yet beautiful work that was crafted by first generation Germans, and polished by Trevor Horn’s spirit of the age production.

Towards the end of 1985, ZTT released the remix album, Wishful Thinking. Don’t for one moment think that this was a cut’n’paste job akin to the type of slipshod exploitation proffered by today's young bucks. Rather, it was a genuine artistic venture, aimed at reshaping and remodelling Propagandas visionary work, with the group aided by Paul Morley and Bob Kraushaar.

Unfortunately, that was pretty much it...

Sorry for the rather large post, but I have to say that their brief but joyous and intelligent existence was pop perfection.

Propaganda rule.Good taste above.

porkmarras 06.01.2006 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
Justin Timberlake's an OK dude. Some good songs.

Justin rules the airwaves.He unites people.

alyasa 06.01.2006 04:22 AM

But Sonic Youth are going to shred his arm in a meat grinder. :(

porkmarras 06.01.2006 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
But Sonic Youth are going to shred his arm in a meat grinder. :(

haha:D

alyasa 06.01.2006 04:27 AM

 


May the gay remain that way.

porkmarras 06.01.2006 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
 


May the gay remain that way.

That sooooo gives me the horns!

Hip Priest 06.01.2006 04:30 AM

Oh good god, that's horrible. I'm off to the 'p' threa to look at Norbert again.

alyasa 06.01.2006 04:31 AM

Eh, ah, green-eyed, uh, loco-man.

truncated 06.01.2006 04:32 AM

I dig me some Nelly.

And how could we have left out Janet Jackson?

Michael goes without saying. I'm surprised I just said it. I'm ashamed to have to say it. His supreme reign of coolness is far too grand to be lumped amongst other pop artists. He deserves his own universe, or at the very least, his own thread.

Oh, Michael. You are wayward, but you have a home in my heart.

alyasa 06.01.2006 04:40 AM

 


Michael Jackson disguised as a Muslim woman...

porkmarras 06.01.2006 04:42 AM

 

''Thanks truncated.I am still the king of pop.I don't care what people say 'cause i'm kind and i love children.All of them.Yummy!''

porkmarras 06.01.2006 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
 


Michael Jackson disguised as a Muslim woman...


I fell off my chair laughing at this!

alyasa 06.01.2006 04:47 AM

Hmm... It really is him...

truncated 06.01.2006 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
 

''Thanks truncated.I am still the king of pop.I don't care what people say 'cause i'm kind and i love children.All of them.Yummy!''


Every response I thought of to this would have gotten me virtually lynched.

But I assure you, they were all fabulously amusing. Highly offensive, grossly inappropriate, possibly depraved, a potential red flag to authorities...but funny.

alyasa 06.01.2006 04:59 AM

Ouh, my spine tingles at the imagined responses that might trickle down from your highly realised intellectual inherentness.

truncated 06.01.2006 05:00 AM

Fuckin' A.

DemonBox 06.01.2006 07:17 AM

Boyzvoice was kinda great.

Boyzvoice - Hey Mr. President

ooh yeah, yeah

hey Mr. President
tell me the truth
why are you stealing
the future from our youth?
the climate is changing
-I worry a lot
when it's cold on Minorca
and Iceland is hot
so hey Mr. President
-what is the plot?
ooh, yeah, yeah
ooh, yeah, yeah

hey Mr. President
I have been told
that more and more people
are catching the cold
allergics are sneezing
the air is not clean
and more and more youngsters
enjoy nicotine
so hey, Mr. President
-change the routine
ooh, yeah, yeah
ooh, yeah, yeah

hey Mr. President
who is to pay?
when ten different species
are killed everyday
what would you think
that the forest would choose
you getting richer
or loosing the moose
hey Mr. President
-I think you will loose...
ooh, yeah, yeah
ooh, yeah, yeah

ooooh - Mr. President
look me in the face
it's time for you to do the right thing
we're short on time to save the human race
'cause the quality of my semens
is decreasing as I sing

so hey, Mr. President
save the day, Mr. President
make everything be okay
Mr. President...

oooooooooh yeah yeah
oooooooooh yeah yeah

They made some magic in those lyrics man:P
 


And just for the hell of it: Boyzvoice - 12 year old woman

I have spent the best days of my life with you
days of love, days of laugther, but now I feel blue
A tear is rolling down from my eye
Now I know that our love was based on a lie
How could you be so mean
told me you were sixteen
I'll never stop blaming myself
For not seeing that you only were twelve, so tell me...

Ref:
How can I believe in love anymore
When I've been betrayed by the one I adore
Tell me how can I ever fall in love again
Being hurt by a twelve year old woman (twelve year old woman)

Now I know the meaning of the phrase:
You should never ask a woman about her age
Because your heart will fall apart
If you ever catch a glimpse of her ID-card
The most beautiful girl I've seen
Told me she was sixteen
It hurts me so - I found out too late
She was born in nineteen eightyeight, so tell me...

Ref:
How can I believe in love anymore
When I've been betrayed by the one I adore
Tell me how can I ever fall in love again
Being hurt by a twelve year old woman

Bridge:
Deep in my heart she means everything to me
and sometimes I wish that I told her
That even if her parents are planning to sue me
I'll be back when she's four years older

Just tell me...

Ref:
How can I believe in love anymore (how can I believe)
When I've been betrayed by the one I adore
Tell me how can I ever fall in love again
Being hurt by a twelve year old woman

They were so fucking underrated..

DemonBox 06.01.2006 07:23 AM

Yeah, one more thing

Boyzvoice - What's Happening To My Body?
na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body
na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body

listen everybody, 'cause I know what it means
to be livin' on the planet as a boy in the teens
it really isn't easy turning into a man
cause pu-ber-ty is part of the plan
you get pimples in your face
and braces on your teeth
and your first ever pubic hair
is growing underneath
your voice is crackin' up'ah
you're feeling kinda silly
standing in the shower
lookin' down at your willy, going...

na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body
na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body

among the girls and the boys
the boys develop later
there's a(!) girl in my class
but I don't dare to date her(!!)
you're sad and surprised
when it comes to your knowledge
she's already bangin' boys who go to college
so the most exiting moment
of your life in the teens
is going to Narvesen
for dirty magazines
realizing this is not the time
for you to start dating
you spend the weekends home
all alone masturbating, going...

na na na nanana na na
wat's happening to my body
na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body

you're lucky to be young, free and single
that's what people imply
the fact is you're feeling more like
young, dumb and shy
you don't dare to smile
and you don't dare to speak
and you don't dare to dance
with a girl cheek to cheek
and if you ever shower
after gym with your class
you're hiding in the corner
showing nothing but your ass
and it really takes an effort
preventing an erection
when the high school nurse
does her testicle inspection

listen, every parent
as we finally conclude
being horny, shy and ugly
makes it easy to be rude
so please forgive your son
if he seems to misbehave
he might have cut some pimples
while he was trying to shave

na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body
na na na nanana na na
what's happenng to my body
na na na nanana na na
wat's happening to my body
na na na nanana na na
what's happening to my body

If you find the lyrics amusing you'll love the music. hah.

EMMAh 06.01.2006 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
I dig me some Nelly.


Haha Nelly, I totally forgot about him until I heard that song about grills :D

Toilet & Bowels 06.01.2006 08:08 AM

i can't get down with pop rap

truncated 06.01.2006 08:57 AM

Hush. You're named after feces.

Toilet & Bowels 06.01.2006 08:59 AM

i'm named after a throne and the wonders of nature

porkmarras 06.01.2006 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i'm named after a throne and the wonders of nature

The Bowel Movement starts here.Subscribe!Now!

Toilet & Bowels 06.01.2006 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
The Bowel Movement starts here.Subscribe!Now!


i'll send you all something special in the post

jon boy 06.01.2006 09:10 AM

it will take more than a pop music thread to save.


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