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gmku 05.15.2007 02:37 PM

What religion am I? WTF. How can I be a whole religion? That's a daunting task, no?

!@#$%! 05.15.2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Humanity, that is my religion.


what is HUmanity? how is it different than Apeninity?

SynthethicalY 05.15.2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
what is HUmanity? how is it different than Apeninity?


Basically apathetic towards everything.

!@#$%! 05.15.2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Basically apathetic towards everything.


oh! youre a nihilist! that's terrible...

read some nietzsche, he will do you good...

SynthethicalY 05.15.2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
oh! youre a nihilist! that's terrible...

read some nietzsche, he will do you good...


Sorry I am a product of my own generation. I try to be compasionate, but it is so hard, when every human being i encountered treated me horrible.

!@#$%! 05.15.2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Sorry I am a product of my own generation. I try to be compasionate, but it is so hard, when every human being i encountered treated me horrible.


who said nihilism is a monopoly of your generation? besides, too much compassion can be toxic. read nietzsche.

Prisstina 05.15.2007 03:24 PM

brought up catholic.

now atheist.

!@#$%! 05.15.2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Prisstina
brought up catholic.

now atheist.


funny-- did you go to catholic school by any chance? i did-- biggest factory of atheists and non-believers.

SynthethicalY 05.15.2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
who said nihilism is a monopoly of your generation? besides, too much compassion can be toxic. read nietzsche.



Will I have to dissect it, cause i am in no mood for dissecting literature.

gmku 05.15.2007 03:31 PM

hey, same here. Catholic boy gone bad. Now an aetheist. I'm also a half-assed Buddhist, though--but Buddhists don't believe in God (or at least this one doesn't)

SynthethicalY 05.15.2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
hey, same here. Raised Catholic, turned aetheist in college. I'm also a half-assed Buddhist, though--but Buddhists don't believe in God (or at least this one doesn't)



Tried to be buddhist, but can't give up my old ways. I was raised catholic, and all that crap.

!@#$%! 05.15.2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Will I have to dissect it, cause i am in no mood for dissecting literature.


here's your best cliff-notes for it.

http://www.amazon.com/What-Nietzsche.../dp/0805241574

and a review:

http://www.stevencscheer.com/solomon.htm

gmku 05.15.2007 03:39 PM

Yeah, I started to get obsessive as a Buddhist--about whether all my choices (about what I ate, drank, wore, said, did, you name it) were "right." Even though Buddhism doesn't have commandments per se, it has precepts, or guidelines, which were driving me just as nuts.

I did enjoy the meditative aspect, which helped me relax. And I think there's much that is good about Buddhism. It can be very common sensical, and it's messages are peace and tolerance, and concern for others, not bad messages for our times.

golden child 05.15.2007 07:45 PM

christian, philisophically similar to tolstoy, although the super pacifist hippie in him makes my blood curdle. ive recently become very fascinated in religion and its history, because i do believe in god just like how christianity and islam stem from judaism and the development of judaism from primitive religion. i love how there are many instances in genesis where people acually walked with god. enoch walked with god and he found so much favor in him that he was taken into heaven, god regularly walked in the garden of eden, god physically wrestled jacob and came physically came to visit abraham with his friends. shows how detatched we are today. i pretty much think all religions are delusioned, but thats just the nature of the beast.

Prisstina 05.15.2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
funny-- did you go to catholic school by any chance? i did-- biggest factory of atheists and non-believers.


nah, but i've been going to church almost once every week of my life. parents also have put me through religion classes since kindergarten which are total bullshit & complete wastes of my time. i've gone through every sacrament up to confirmation, which i've decided i'm not going to participate in.

cagedbird 05.15.2007 08:24 PM

Unitarian-Jewish-Calvinist-Catholic-Buddhist-Lutheran-Atheist-Anglican

I believe religion is entwined with culture.

pantophobia 05.15.2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
funny-- did you go to catholic school by any chance? i did-- biggest factory of atheists and non-believers.


certainly true, i was in a catholic school for 3 years until they were no longer able to provide certain support, i mean i don't have much resentment to them at all, Father Treacy was a very nice man (after he died, the only vice that came out was that he was a recovering alcoholic), i have always been a thinker, and when i got around to thinking about religion, it just clicked in my head

my sister went thru 9 years until public high, and is just weird (as in so normal, social and attends Clemson), a better example is another family i know, 4 kids, all St. Peters, then to Our Lady of Good Council, 2 of them turned out ok, the other 2 became social drinkers, wild party goers and in constant trouble, and they aren't gonna be anything, the cycle continues

my family is kind of the odd one out considering i only have one sibling, when i know families of 4 or more kids, my family are quite lapsed, and even my dad who's a registered republican really understands the world around him unlike many of his friends who are just thick, my sister is the only one who is just oblivious intellectually and literally, and for that she got hit by a car for not looking when crossing the street

anyways the catholic-bred count is up too 15 in the thread

!@#$%! 05.15.2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pantophobia
anyways the catholic-bred count is up too 15 in the thread


hah hah yes, it's the catholic block

schizophrenicroom 05.15.2007 08:57 PM

i belong to the church of gaspard ulliel. the things i wish i could do with that boy.

Silent Dan Speaks 05.15.2007 09:00 PM

I'm a protestant christian, methodist if you want to be more specific.

Savage Clone 05.15.2007 09:05 PM

I'm not a "joiner."

dionysusundone 05.15.2007 09:38 PM

Pagan...bah.

Dead-Air 05.15.2007 11:51 PM

I draw from elements of Deism, Hinduism, and Quaker/Friends style Christianity.

I do think there is a higher power, basically the universe itself, though I don't think there's all that much reason for it to overly concern itself with us.

I do believe that there was likely a really good spiritual leader named Christ who tried to steer people in the right direction a couple thousand years ago. Unfortunately his immediate followers (notably the apostles) used his death as the means to grab power for themselves and set up a church full of people who've kept doing that for ages now.

I think there is much to be learned from ancient knowledge, though of course it can't be applied to today's world literally.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.15.2007 11:59 PM

I'm basically a Christian existentialist.

ZEROpumpkins 05.16.2007 04:01 AM

Atheist

emobear 05.16.2007 05:02 AM

i don't have a catholic block, but i think satan is boring.
 
i have both catholic and protestant friends. but i think the whole clerical thing is little outdated now. i mean, there are at least few things to reconsider, guys.


 

ZEROpumpkins 05.16.2007 05:44 AM

Holy crap your name is Marty too, and everyone always says to me "Hey Marty, let's have a party!"

Onani Nic 05.16.2007 08:37 AM

Whatever Madonna is.

Dead-Air 05.16.2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Onani Nic
Whatever Madonna is.


Ah, you're a Material Girl!

mangajunky 05.16.2007 09:47 AM

Society of Friends aka Quaker

LittlePuppetBoy 05.16.2007 11:11 AM

atheist

LittlePuppetBoy 05.16.2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mangajunky
Society of Friends aka Quaker


hey cool. My grandparents are Quaker.

Dead-Air 05.16.2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mangajunky
Society of Friends aka Quaker


I sometimes go to Friends meetings, though the pure Christianity doesn't quite fit with my spiritual realm. I love the activist mentality in their church though, and the lack of preachers and embracing of silence is the coolest form of worship out there. So I participate, but don't join.

atsonicpark 05.17.2007 02:52 AM

agnostic.

religion is a joke, but some people "need" it, so yeah.. good for them. i believe there is a possibility in the existence of a divine being, but i would never conform to christian or whatever ridiculous constrictive shit religion you can randomly pick. scoff all you want, but i definitely side up with satanism more than any other religion: it gives you freedom and it preaches things that aren't evil but are fucking logical.

something 05.17.2007 04:04 AM

i have no religon i think its great that some people can have so much faith in some other worldly being or beings i just happen to lack that sense of devotion without proof but at the same time i hate when peoples religon interferes with other beliefs i.e. abortion, homosexual rights and other such things

pbradley 05.17.2007 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I'm basically a Christian existentialist.

So, like, Kierkegaard? Because I know most existentialism philosophers are pretty critical of the Christian faith.
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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
but i definitely side up with satanism more than any other religion: it gives you freedom and it preaches things that aren't evil but are fucking logical.

So you find worth in that "humans are naturally selfish" philosophy?

Norma J 05.17.2007 04:15 AM

Religion's one of them things that doesn't need to be spoken about or acted upon, but rather felt... I think anyway.

pbradley 05.17.2007 04:26 AM

Well the thing is that one feels one's faith and then is forced by conviction to act upon it. All too often people incorrectly act and find that as a way to build the feeling which is backwards and easily manipulated.

Also, they act upon others by "spread the word" but religion should be entirely self focused. The best kind of people that come to religion are ones that feel that there is something wrong with themselves that needs changing. Religion shouldn't be for the self-satisfied.

Norma J 05.17.2007 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley

religion should be entirely self focused...

Religion shouldn't be for the self-satisfied.


Those two statements contradict eachother.

Religion should be completely self-satisfying. It should be about personal growth and spirituality, not convincing anyone else anything.

sonicl 05.17.2007 04:38 AM

I take that "religion shouldn't be for the self-satisfied" as meaning "religion shouldn't be for those who are smug about it". I've come across plenty of people who seem to beleive that their religion makes them better than others - they're the ones I would call self-satisfied. Assuming that that's the sort of thing that pbradley is referring to, I'm with him on that. Religion/faith should be inclusive, not exclusive.


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