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truncated 04.13.2006 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by noumenal
OK, having looked at the OED, here's the deal:

The suffix -ade in this context means "The product of an action, and, by extension, that of any process or raw material; as in arcade, colonnade, masquerade, lemonade, marmalade, pomade. " In other words, lemonade is something made from lemons.

Lemonade is defined as "A drink made of lemon-juice and water, sweetened with sugar." And there is a note that says: "In England now very commonly applied to ‘aerated lemonade’, which consists of water impregnated with carbonic acid with the addition of lemon-juice and sugar."


Yeah, when I looked up the definition of lemonade, there was an added bit about it being "still or carbonated."

However, I looked up orangeade, and that exists as a word in the OED, the UK version mind you, but exists nonetheless: "a fizzy soft drink flavored with orange." The very wording of that definition would suggest that the 'ade' correlates with the fizzy soft drink.

This is the most moronic, pointless debate ever.

It just pissed me off, being rebutted on something that is very obviously regional. And I repeat, he drinks Irn Bru. Have you ever tasted that shit? Anyone who drinks that can never be considered a beverage authority.

Hip Priest 04.13.2006 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated
...he drinks Irn Bru. Have you ever tasted that shit? Anyone who drinks that can never be considered a beverage authority.


True. Irn Bru is indeed strange. Incredible as it may seem, you can now buy pre-mixed whiskey and vodka with Irn Bru.

But did you ever taste Vimto? Or do you have it in the U.S? That's a fantastic tast.

I England, Lemonade etc is indeed always sparkling, unless it's specifically described as 'still' lemonade.

Hip Priest 04.13.2006 05:43 AM

Also, it's innacurate in the main to describe our lemonade as deriving from lemons - most of it is derived from artificial flavourings, such is the age we live in. In fact, , so unusual is it for lemonade to have had contact with fruit, that the fact is proudly proclaimed on the label.

Sainsbury's do a rather nice appple and melon flavour ade.

noumenal 04.13.2006 06:04 AM

Homemade lemonade is really good.

sonicl 04.13.2006 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by noumenal
Homemade lemonade is really good.


Indeed it is. And so easy to make for something so nice.

samuel 04.13.2006 10:34 AM

pink lemonade annoys me
I like yellow

my dictionary defines -ade as
"a sweetened beverage of" too

thewall91 04.13.2006 11:07 AM

Kool-aid is not carbonated, but the "i" in the suffix might suggest it aids one in being kool. I prefer the grape.

carbonated lemonade sucks. they should change that spelling to lemonaid, because the "i" would then aid the drink into sucking more.

Katy 04.13.2006 11:32 AM

Non-carbonated lemonade is generally (in the UK) called Lemon squash, isn't it?

Not being a non-alcoholic beverage expert I can't tell you for sure. But I'd call a fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemonade" and a non-fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemon squash". If confronted.

They give you lemon squash after you donate blood, you know. That's the only time (outside of nursery school) I've ever drunk it.

pao-lino 04.13.2006 12:43 PM

!flat!
sprite and seven up suck.
when I was in the states I drank a lot of pink lemonade... I also bought the powder-bags to make it, just cos I was 14 and exicted.
the real best lemonade is the hand squeezed-lemons one.


you americans also have CO2iced-tea...that's disgusting.

Savage Clone 04.13.2006 12:51 PM

pao-lino, this is one American who hates bubbly drinks.

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.

Hip Priest 04.13.2006 12:52 PM

I'll give you guys my special ice-cube recipe if there's enough demand!

pao-lino 04.13.2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.


yeah, high level of speculation.:)
mmm... mojito's crashed ice with mint... fresh.

truncated 04.13.2006 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
pao-lino, this is one American who hates bubbly drinks.

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.


Bite me vaj boy

Savage Clone 04.13.2006 01:28 PM

I was being totally serious.
This has been riveting.

truncated 04.13.2006 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I was being totally serious.
This has been riveting.


...
Bite me vaj boy.

Savage Clone 04.13.2006 01:56 PM

Ooh, good comeback.

truncated 04.13.2006 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Ooh, good comeback.


I'm lost for words. Your efforts to patronize me are deeply hurtful. I sit here in an emotional ruin as I type this.

Savage Clone 04.13.2006 02:23 PM

I find this oddly satisfying.

truncated 04.13.2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I find this oddly satisfying.


Sadist! I'm so glad you're taking pleasure in my suffering.

Toilet & Bowels 04.13.2006 08:19 PM

there's something here that needs to be addressed immeadiatly, which is the english definition of an english word, is always going to be correct over whatever (horrendous) meanings have been attached to said word in the americas.

and cherryade, lemonade etc.. aren't brands it's like a generic term. we have cherry coke, although not cherry pepsi.


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