Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

and damn, soldiers exist for two purposes and two purposes only. to KILL the enemy and die trying or to DIE defending atatcks from an enemy.

preznit bush dodged military service rather than give the "ultimate sacrifice" as he so likes to put it. so did Clinton. John Kerry, the only person running for president in the last 10 years that has actual military service, was laughed at for his anti war stance. now, who is better to tell you that war sucks? a soldier that has seen it and killed and seen his friends die trying to kill.

yet we laughed at hima nd elected a puppet of fat fucks.

Originally Posted by chabib

the israeli government is out of control in general. the majority of israeli citizens have plenty of contempt for the actions of their government as they know that such actions do nothing but further endanger their lives.

america's decision to start a war with afghanistan because a terrorist organization has bases there has opened up a nasty can of worms. now any nation can use that conflict as an example of how terrorism is supposed to be combatted.

while the rest of the world can come out strongly against the disproportionate actions of the israeli government and the IDF, america (not that they'd say anything anyway, for some ludicrous reason...) can't say anything without looking entirely hypocritical.

why america ever supported the possibility for a country the size of new jersey to have the fourth largest army in the world as well as nuclear arms is a mystery to me. i'd love to see how much more willing to be a partner in peace israel would be if they had a military the size of lebanon or syria...

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Batiasn, it is all relevant. the people in power i the US as of this second are firm believers in the armageddon theory of fundamentalist christians. the truly believe that the world is coming to and end and SOON and that it will all be precipitated by Israel, which is why they ahve such a vested interest in maintaining the existance of Israel. according to the new testament, the way these fundamentalists read revelations, they believe that the Jews have to have a state before the armagedon can begin. The y have had a state now for over 50 years. these people are INSANE.
they have no need to better tomorrow because in their hearts and minds tomorrow will never come. they want their goodies NOW

it is highly relevant to the ongoing conflict in israel/Gaza/Lebanon.

Originally Posted by porkmarras

Incidentally has anyone on here been an actually waged anti-capitalism party member?

Originally Posted by porkmarras

Incidentally has anyone on here been an actually waged anti-capitalism party member?

Originally Posted by Bastian

I`m leaning to the left and anti-capitalism, though not active in any groups (yet).
I`m also very critical of/opposed to many positions that are considered "left".

I think a leftist group that I can relate to should be consent to this:
http://www.eustonmanifesto.org/

Originally Posted by acousticrock87

For every person who bashes capitalism, I will get Leeds Mattresses to match any advertised price, or my mattress is free. Jerks.

Originally Posted by porkmarras

The left or right political orientations are something someone out there is trying to prove very,very misleading.

Originally Posted by Bastian

Well, not sure if I understand you correctly..

I don`t really care much about the label "left" or "right", I rather try to judge a position by what it`s actual about, not what political spectrum it is attributed to.

The whole left/right dichtomy is pretty messed up anyways.
Political groups/position within the left are sometimes totally oppositional to each other. Same goes for parties of the so-called center or right, I guess.

I`ve been called "left-wing radical" by "conservative" folks as I`ve been called neocon by "leftwing" folks, as I`m very opposed to the anti-imperialist left (and right.. anti-imperial
sm is very alive in neo nazi groups)... stupid "identy" clashes..