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davenotdead 07.13.2007 09:42 PM

because people in South America dont say "Im South American" when you ask where theyre from....Theyll say 'Brazlian' or 'Peruvian' or 'columbian' ....natch...because they're diff countries...

drrrtyboots 07.13.2007 10:12 PM

I say i'm a nor'easter, gets all the ladies.

ThePits 07.14.2007 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory
To justify sending our military into another country, there are at least two conditions that have to be met:

1. It is morally justified
2. It serves our national interest (which may include humanitarian causes)

For that reason, we can't be the world's police in every situation.

As far as our national interests are concerned, do you really think the only difference between Israel and Iraq is oil? If Israel had oil, do you believe we would overthrow their government?


No but I do think the hypocritical attitude to a regime that detains without trial, steals land, defies the League of Nations and the United Nations thereby making a mockery of said institutions, shoots 400 children dead under the age of 14 in a two year period for throwing stones at tanks and is the running sore of the middle east causing many of the spin off problems in the region should come marginally higher up the list for invasion than that of an egomaniac with an oil field

The double standards by the US government , which consistently vetoes any criticism of the state of Israel, does more to recruit terrorism than any speech by Osama Bin Laden

As for being the worlds policemen, George Bush Senior said the US wasnt the worlds policemen and good old George W said the US were!

Someone needs to make there mind up

By the way, both your criteria for overthrowing the regime in Israel are met, its morally justified and humanitarian reasons dictate it should happen

Millions of Palestinians still in refugee camps for 40 years because Israeli "settlers" have moved onto their land?

pbradley 07.14.2007 03:32 AM

Underneith all the pop culture twatage, corporate/goverment corruption, pscyho-intrusive advertising, etc. I like to think that there is something redeemable and noble about this large clump of dirt.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.15.2007 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Talk about old news.


amen.

davenotdead 07.15.2007 02:11 AM

Im diggin this new Madlib....i wonder whats up with all these dudes suddenly being interested in India...Wes Anderson's new flick is being shot there too....Normally it isnt film to music though....these kind of relations...normally this happens in movies all the time though...like when Armageddon and Deep Impact came around the same time...or Antz and A Bug's Life....or even the 2 Capote movies....

_slavo_ 07.15.2007 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
exactly, all the 99 other countries (or however many there are) do is sit on their asses and bitch and moan...and watch our entertainment, and use all of our American inventions....except China, they actually work...it'll be funny when China is the #1 country in the world and everyone starts learning some Mandarin so they can bitch to China...


that's a bit narrow-minded, don't you think?

davenotdead 07.15.2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
that's a bit narrow-minded, don't you think?


i dont like to drag down the main point with details

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.15.2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaka Moloch
and can only hope I am taken to mean that certain total recall is in order for the human climate to avoid the way of Ouroboros going too far and disappearing from this unifying home in entirety before the better dreams can come.
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so you have read Imajica too?

!@#$%! 07.15.2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
because people in South America dont say "Im South American" when you ask where theyre from....Theyll say 'Brazlian' or 'Peruvian' or 'columbian' ....natch...because they're diff countries...


sort of yeah, but not exactly.

AMERICA is a continent. which is what your answer is not addressing.

so people from south america say they are AMERICAN like the french say they are EUROPEAN.

problem is, when the USA was created all the rest of the continent ws european colonies, so they got first dibs on the name united states of AMERICA-- other countries followed such as estados unidos MEXICANOS and estados unidos DO BRASIL.

this creates a situation as if germany was called "federal republic of europe" and called themselves "the europeans" thus excluding all other "europeans". but it wasn't done on purpose or something.

it was thomas jefferson's plan to colonize the whole continent though. it might stll happen-- a few decades from now, borders melting, etc.

of course "americans" have ignored anything that's happened "south of the border" since forever... but that's another story.

davenotdead 07.16.2007 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sort of yeah, but not exactly.

AMERICA is a continent. which is what your answer is not addressing.

so people from south america say they are AMERICAN like the french say they are EUROPEAN.

problem is, when the USA was created all the rest of the continent ws european colonies, so they got first dibs on the name united states of AMERICA-- other countries followed such as estados unidos MEXICANOS and estados unidos DO BRASIL.

this creates a situation as if germany was called "federal republic of europe" and called themselves "the europeans" thus excluding all other "europeans". but it wasn't done on purpose or something.

it was thomas jefferson's plan to colonize the whole continent though. it might stll happen-- a few decades from now, borders melting, etc.

of course "americans" have ignored anything that's happened "south of the border" since forever... but that's another story.


yes, but when someone asks where you are from, you answer with your country, not your continent...thats all i was saying....as to the future blending of the americas, i wouldnt really mind...i like most of them....and i dont think it really bothers them to say "south America", does it?


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