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Skuj 11.08.2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
This four seasons landscaping press conference has to be one of the funniest things this year. Admittedly there hasn't been much to laugh about but my fucking god. If they'd written that in the thick of it you'd have said it was too far-fetched.

 


I had no idea what this was all about, so I just looked it up.

OMFG.

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Giuliani - he led New York in 9/11. He wrote a book on Leadership. I once respected him. Now he is an absolute fucking sad sorry clown.

!@#$%! 11.08.2020 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Maybe not in Graham's lifetime, but I can't say I believe there will never be another republican president ever again

a little trip down memory lane...

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...insults-219374

Skuj 11.08.2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Maybe not in Graham's lifetime, but I can't say I believe there will never be another republican president ever again


Oh, I'm sure there will be in either 2024 or 2028.

If 70+mil voted for Trump, then I believe it.

Skuj 11.08.2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!


It's even funnier when you look up what Graham used to say about Trump.

Isn't Politics wonderful? Graham got re-elected by jumping onto the Trump Train.

tw2113 11.08.2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Oh, I'm sure there will be in either 2024 or 2028.

If 70+mil voted for Trump, then I believe it.



Indeed. Unless they all pass away one way or another between now and then. Hard to say.

Skuj 11.08.2020 08:32 PM

I'm elated that Biden won.

But I'm dumbfounded that Trump, after 4 years of monumental incompetence, was competitive.

America is lost.

The Soup Nazi 11.08.2020 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Minnesota is not a swing state by any measure


Damn right. ONLY state not to fall for Reagan's horseshit in '84.

The Soup Nazi 11.09.2020 12:47 AM

From The Washington Post:

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Thank goodness Trump is too incompetent to properly organize a coup

Opinion by Max Boot
Columnist
November 6, 2020 at 4:25 p.m. GMT-3


I have never been more grateful for President Trump’s incompetence. He can’t even organize a coup d’état properly.

It is not for want of trying. Since April 8, he has been fulminating against mail-in voting — claiming, without a shred of evidence, that it is ripe for fraud. His transparently obvious scheme has been to demand that the largely Democratic mail-in ballots be thrown out so that he could win based on the Election Day totals.

Just hours after the polls closed, Trump falsely claimed that he had won battleground states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan — and with them the election. On Thursday, already far behind in the electoral college, he doubled down: “If you count the legal votes, I easily win. If you count the illegal votes, they can try to steal the election from us.”

Trump’s definition of an “illegal vote,” it is clear, is one that is cast against him. This is the kind of thing you expect to hear from Robert Mugabe, Alexander Lukashenko or Nicolás Maduro — not from the leader of a constitutional republic. No president in our history has mounted such a blatant assault on our democracy.

Trump has, predictably, been joined in his fulminations against the election by his usual MAGA minions. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich demands that federal agents arrest election workers, and former White House aide Sebastian Gorka fulminates that U.S. marshals “need to break down the doors of those polling stations and stop the crimes being committed.”

But, mercifully, that is not happening. More significant than what is being said is what is not being said — or done. So far Attorney General William P. Barr, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, and acting Homeland Security secretary Chad Wolf — the men in control of what, in other countries, are known as the “power ministries” — have not publicly said one word to support Trump’s baseless accusations of fraud and have not made any public moves to save Trump from defeat. Trump might fire some or all of them (a purge is said to be in the works), but it’s doubtful their successors will come to his rescue either.

Nor have the courts intervened despite all of the judges that Trump has appointed. Unable to mobilize a high-powered legal team as George W. Bush did in 2000, Trump is relying on the usual low-wattage loyalists: Rudolph W. Giuliani, Richard Grenell, Pam Bondi, Corey Lewandowski. Their arguments play well on Fox “News” — but, so far, not so well in court. Trump’s Supreme Court appointees are not exactly rushing to sacrifice their reputations on Trump’s altar.

Many of us have spent the past few years decrying the tendency of Trump supporters to live in a world of alternative facts. But ultimately reality bites. The fact that Trump and his cultists cannot point to a single actual case of fraud — much less enough fraud to overturn an election that he is on track to lose by a significant margin — makes it impossible for them to effectively challenge the results. Their theory — that Democrats perpetrated a massive fraud in the presidential race but neglected to fix the results of House or Senate races — is laughably absurd.

This helps to explain why the Republican Party is not enthusiastically rallying to Trump’s side. So far, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) is one of the few GOP leaders shameless enough to claim that Trump has already won. Donald Trump Jr. had to berate 2024 potential GOP hopefuls for not coming to Trump’s defense — which produced dutiful tweets from the likes of Nikki Haley and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.). Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) outrageously suggested that Trump deserves an election do-over. But not even Vice President Pence echoed Trump’s claims of a stolen election. His carefully worded tweet said: “I Stand With President @realDonaldTrump. We must count every LEGAL vote.”

Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, who is close to Trump, actually denounced his baseless accusations — as did the few elected Republicans with any integrity. Others, such as Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), retreated to bromides about counting all of the legal votes. (Who can disagree?) In the cruelest cut of all, the New York Post, which only a few weeks ago had been hyping the pseudo-scandal of Hunter Biden’s laptop, dismissed Trump’s Thursday meltdown with a withering headline: “Downcast Trump makes baseless election fraud claims in White House address.”

The Fox “News” evening hosts may stick with Trump to the bitter end, but it’s pretty clear that Rupert Murdoch — who would not even force Fox’s news division to rescind its call of Arizona for Biden — is not going down with the SS Trumptanic. Neither are Republican leaders. They were happy to use Trump to get what they wanted — judges, tax cuts — and they were (and are) too afraid of his rabid base to challenge him. But having survived the election, they don’t have much use for him anymore. They are probably just as happy not to be asked in the future to respond to his witless tweets.

Harry Truman supposedly said, “If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.” Trump doesn’t have a dog — or a prayer.

_slavo_ 11.09.2020 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_

Who is claiming that the elections are not rigged? Every body else, all over this planet (except for the Slovakian PM)





I beg you pardon? Our PM has never said such a thing.



Maybe you meant Slovenian? (which might make sense, as Melania is from Slovenia)

h8kurdt 11.09.2020 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
I beg you pardon? Our PM has never said such a thing.



Maybe you meant Slovenian? (which might make sense, as Melania is from Slovenia)


Oof, touchier than calling a New Zealander Australian!

choc e-Claire 11.09.2020 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Oof, touchier than calling a New Zealander Australian!

we're all your bastard children anyway m8

h8kurdt 11.09.2020 04:25 AM

And don't forget it, peasant

_slavo_ 11.09.2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Oof, touchier than calling a New Zealander Australian!



haha, yes, we're touchy about this :)


(Slovenia is actually a country way cooler than us, btw, we just don't like ourselves mixed up)

Skuj 11.09.2020 05:14 PM

Nosper!

Skuj 11.09.2020 05:15 PM

(I bet Wray is next.)

!@#$%! 11.09.2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Nosper!


https://www.nosper.com/

huh?

Skuj 11.09.2020 05:44 PM

Esper=Yesper, but now he is fired, so.....

Skuj 11.09.2020 06:00 PM

Barbie came out to spew the party line:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...ess-conference

But Fox cut away!! The Universe has changed!!

!@#$%! 11.09.2020 06:18 PM

oh yeah esper lol

get ready for an utter shitfest all the way into 2021

in fact the worst could still yet come as it becomes clearer he’s got nothing to lose

Skuj 11.09.2020 06:24 PM

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/th...ransition.html


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